Apparent trigonometric inconsistencies

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the expression for sin x in terms of the sides of a right triangle, specifically examining the relationships between the opposite side (a), adjacent side (b), and hypotenuse (c). Participants explore the derivation of sin x using various trigonometric identities and express confusion regarding apparent inconsistencies in the results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a derivation for sin x using identities from textbooks, leading to two different expressions for sin x based on different substitutions.
  • Another participant challenges the correctness of the initial identities presented, stating that sin x should be defined as the opposite side over the hypotenuse, and tan x as the opposite side over the adjacent side.
  • A later reply acknowledges the correction and expresses gratitude for the clarification.
  • Another participant references the mnemonic "SOH CAH TOA" to reinforce the correct definitions of sine and tangent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the initial definitions of sine and tangent provided by the first participant, with subsequent replies correcting these definitions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the derived expressions for sin x.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential confusion stemming from the misuse of trigonometric identities and the need for clear definitions. The derivations presented depend on the correct identification of the sides of the triangle and their relationships.

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a is the opposite side
b is the adjacent side
c is the hypotenuse.
x is the angle

Problem: expression for sin x as a function of a and c.

Solution:

Identities taken from textbooks:

sin x = a/b (1)
tan x = a/c (2)
sin x = sqrt(tan^2 x / (1 + tan^2 x)) (3)

substituting (2) in (3), we have

sin x = a / sqrt(a^2 + c^2) (4)

On the other hand,

a^2 + b^2 = c^2 => b=sqrt(c^2 - a^2)

substituting this in (1), we have

sin x = a / sqrt(-a^2 + c^2) (5)

(4) != (5) ? how come?

What's wrong here, please?
 
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intervoxel said:
a is the opposite side
b is the adjacent side
c is the hypotenuse.
x is the angle

Problem: expression for sin x as a function of a and c.

Solution:

Identities taken from textbooks:

sin x = a/b (1)
tan x = a/c (2)

You don't cite a source for (1) and (2) above, but each is incorrect. The sine is the opposite over the hypotenuse and the tangent is the opposite over the adjacent.

Here is a nifty graphic:

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Thank you for the prompt answer.
 
Remember your SOH CAH TOA...
 
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