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The discussion centers on the real-life applications of linear Diophantine equations, exploring their relevance in various fields and their potential to engage students in number theory. Participants share examples and express differing views on the necessity of applications in mathematical education.

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  • One participant inquires about real-life applications of linear Diophantine equations to motivate students.
  • Another participant suggests that if students require real-world applications in a number theory course, they may not belong in that course.
  • A different participant shares personal experiences with Diophantine equations through homework problems, questioning the validity of these as true applications.
  • Examples provided include problems related to remainders and scoring in sports, which lead to Diophantine equations.
  • Diophantine equations are mentioned as being used in chemistry for balancing equations, though not systematically.
  • Pell's equation is noted for providing rational approximations to square roots, contrasting with historical methods.
  • The RSA algorithm is highlighted as a significant application of Diophantine equations, with a personal anecdote about encrypting the Declaration of Independence.
  • Various mathematical puzzles involving Diophantine equations are mentioned, which may or may not engage students.
  • Connections to related topics such as factorization algorithms, continued fractions, and the Chinese remainder theorem are suggested as relevant to the discussion.

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Participants express differing views on the importance of real-world applications in number theory education, with no consensus on whether such applications are necessary or beneficial.

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Some claims about applications may depend on specific definitions or contexts, and the relevance of examples to student engagement remains unresolved.

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Are there any real life applications of linear Diophantine equations? I am looking for examples which will motivate students.
 
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All of the applications that I'm aware of are to other areas of mathematics. Are you teaching number theory? To be honest, if students in a course on number theory require "real world applications", they probably shouldn't be in a course on number theory.
 
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^What do you have against applications?
I first became interested in Diophantine equations in high school when I was assigned two problems for homework. Some might object that they are not true applications.
1)You have forgotten how many eggs you have. You remember the following remainders (% means mod)
x%2=1
x%3=1
x%4=1
x%5=1
x%6=1
x%7=0
What x are possible and what is the smallest possible x?
Some methods of solution lead to a Diophantine equation such as
7a-60b=1
2)In a sport game one can score a or b points (say 3 and 7)
What scores are possible?
What can you say about the possibilities for low vs high scores?

Diophantine equations are used in chemistry (often not in a systematic way) to balance chemical equations

Pell's equation gives rational approximations to square roots. Which you can contrast with the the Babylonians or Hero's method of divide and average.

The arithmetic application that keeps on giving. The RSA algorithm.

There are many math puzzles that use Diophantine equations. These may or may not interest students. How many ways can so and so... I'm thinking of a number so and so.. Bobs uncle is half as old as his cousin...
this pirate gold question
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=85009

If you have not already remind the students that many topics are closely related like
Factorization algorithms
Continued fractions
Stern–Brocot tree
Chinese remainder theorem
Modular Multiplicative inverses
Linear Diophantine equations
Euclid's lemma
Euclidean algorithm
 

I worked with the RSA algorithm. Once I encrypted the entire Declaration of Independence in a single arithmetic RSA operation. I believe I used two 2000-digit primes (from online prime database); the size depending on how large a single message chunk you wish to encrypt. I think it's extraordinary to look at an extremely large, non-random number and consider somewhere in it's detail, lies this important document that is virtually impossible to recover without the modular (Diophantine?) decryption operation, upon which it precipitates out in perfect form.

A number of years ago I posted somewhere on the internet that I do not recall, a treasure map to a priceless treasure but encrypted via RSA and included with it the decryption key. Maybe your students could find it and decode it. Expect a surprise. :)

Edit: Ok, I found it. Jesus, didn't realize how good the search engines are. It's there if they look.
 
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