Applications of integration: work problems

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The forum discussion focuses on calculating the work done in two physics problems involving integration. The first problem involves a cylindrical gasoline tank with a diameter of 3 feet and a length of 4 feet, where the work done to pump gasoline weighing 42 pounds per cubic foot is incorrectly calculated due to misinterpretation of the tank's geometry. The second problem involves a 15-foot chain weighing 3 pounds per foot, where the work done by a winch is also miscalculated. Key insights reveal the necessity of accurately applying geometric principles and proper notation in work calculations.

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Homework Statement



1. A cylindrical gasoline tank 3 feet in diameter and 4 feet long is carried on hte back of a truck and is used to fuel tractors. The axis of the tank is horizontal. Find the work done in pumping the entire contents of the fuel tank into a tract if the opening on the tractor tank is 5 feet above the top of the tank in the truck. Gasoline weighs 42 pounds per cubic foot.

2. Consider a 15-foot chain hanging from a winch 15 feet above ground level. Find the work done by the winch in winding up the specified amount of chain, if the chain weighs 3 pounds per foot.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



1. I visualized it as being chopped into little chunks of rectangles:
dW = dF * x
dF = (weight)
weight = 42*4*1.5*dh
dF = 42*4*1.5*dy * (5-y)
\int^{3}_{0}42*4*1.5*dy * (5-y) = 2646
Book Answer: 2457pi

2. dW = dF * x
dF = 3 dy
d = 10-y
\int^{10}_{0}3*(10-y) dy = 150
Book answer: 300


Can anyone help me see my mistakes?
 
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For number 1), It doesn't look like you're correctly taking the geometry of the tank into account. The axis of the tank is horizontal, so the volume of a tiny horizontal slice of dy thickness would change depending on y. I'd expect the expression inside the integral to be a much more complicated function than just (3-y). Although, I really don't think calculus is the way to go for this problem. There's a MUCH simpler way, if your prof. will let you take the easy way out.

I'll look at 2 tomorrow.
 
clairez93 said:

Homework Statement



1. A cylindrical gasoline tank 3 feet in diameter and 4 feet long is carried on hte back of a truck and is used to fuel tractors. The axis of the tank is horizontal. Find the work done in pumping the entire contents of the fuel tank into a tract if the opening on the tractor tank is 5 feet above the top of the tank in the truck. Gasoline weighs 42 pounds per cubic foot.

2. Consider a 15-foot chain hanging from a winch 15 feet above ground level. Find the work done by the winch in winding up the specified amount of chain, if the chain weighs 3 pounds per foot.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



1. I visualized it as being chopped into little chunks of rectangles:
dW = dF * x
dF = (weight)
weight = 42*4*1.5*dh
dF = 42*4*1.5*dy * (5-y)
\int^{3}_{0}42*4*1.5*dy * (5-y) = 2646
Book Answer: 2457pi

2. dW = dF * x
dF = 3 dy
d = 10-y
\int^{10}_{0}3*(10-y) dy = 150
Book answer: 300


Can anyone help me see my mistakes?
For #1, you are assuming that all of the "layers" of gasoline are 1.5 ft wide, which isn't true. You need to use the equation of the circular cross-section of the tank. Since you are integrating from y = 0 to y = 3, you are assuming that the origin is at the bottom of the tank, which has an impact on the equation of the circular cross-section of the tank. This assumption also impacts the expression that represents the height each layer of gas is lifted. For example, the slab at a level y has to be lifted to a height of 8 ft (the top of the tank is at (0, 3) according to your coordinate system, and has to be lifted to (0, 8)). This means that this typical layer has to be lifted (8 - y) ft.
 
I'd also like to add that your notation seems really odd to me. First off, usually work is expressed as F(x)*dx, not dF*x. It makes a difference--you're dividing the work up into increments of x (thin layers of gasoline, tiny links of chain), not increments of force. You also write this 'd', and I can't tell if you're thinking of it as distance, or misusing the d in dF or dx.

I'll check this forum tomorrow, so please don't hesitate to ask more questions if you're confused!
 

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