Applications of Mass Spectrograph

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The discussion revolves around the applications of a mass spectrograph, specifically its ability to determine the specific charge of various types of rays, including positive ions and cathode rays. Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of these measurements in the context of mass spectrometry.

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  • Participants discuss the capabilities of a mass spectrograph in determining specific charges and question whether it can measure the specific charge of cathode rays. There is a debate over the correct interpretation of the options provided and the implications of measuring charge-to-mass ratios.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering differing viewpoints on the correct answers and the reasoning behind them. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of charge-to-mass ratios, but no consensus has been reached on the specific applications to cathode rays.

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Participants are navigating the terminology used in the question, particularly the use of "rays" in reference to cathode rays and the implications of measuring charge without knowing the number of particles involved.

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# A mass spectrograph determines:
a)spectrum of light
b)charge of the ion
c)specific charge of positive rays
d)specific charge of cathode rays
I know that a mass spectrograph has been used to determine the specific charge of positive ions and we may get 1, 2, 3… Parabola’s depending on the number of isotopes the element under study has. But, can it be used to determine the specific charge of cathode rays?
 
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Amith2006 said:
# A mass spectrograph determines:
a)spectrum of light
b)charge of the ion
c)specific charge of positive rays
d)specific charge of cathode rays
I know that a mass spectrograph has been used to determine the specific charge of positive ions and we may get 1, 2, 3… Parabola’s depending on the number of isotopes the element under study has. But, can it be used to determine the specific charge of cathode rays?
Cathode rays are electrons. A mass spectrometer measures charge to mass ratios of ions, so c) should be the correct answer. I don't know about the use of the word "rays" though.

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C is wrong... cathode rays is choice D. I would say B... it doesn't give yuo the specific charge of a cathode ray, because you don't know how many electrons are flowing (it just gives you the relative charge to mass ratio). But the charge of an ion... presumably, you know the mass by looking it up on a periodic table.

To make it a bit clearer (that's rambling up above):

If you use it for a ray, because you don't know how many particles are in the ray, you're only capable of measuring the ratio of charge to mass. However, if you measure the ratio of charge to mass for an ion, you can calculate the charge by figuring out the mass given the composition
 
Thanks for the help.
 

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