Applying at companies who don't list job openings?

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The discussion centers on the challenges and strategies for applying to companies that do not publicly list job openings, particularly for physics graduates. Participants explore whether such companies are hiring, the effectiveness of unsolicited applications, and the role of hiring managers in the recruitment process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that many companies do not have job portals or that the portals are not useful, suggesting a reliance on alternative hiring methods.
  • There is a suggestion that companies may not be hiring or may prefer recruiting through specific channels such as campus recruiting or personal introductions.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the effectiveness of sending resumes to generic contact addresses, indicating it may be a waste of time.
  • Another participant recommends identifying hiring managers to directly submit resumes, but questions the traditional concept of a "hiring manager," arguing that hiring decisions are often made by teams rather than individuals.
  • There is a perspective that getting a resume into the system is more important than targeting specific individuals, as any employee may facilitate this process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of unsolicited applications and the role of hiring managers, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach to applying at companies without job listings.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in hiring practices across companies, suggesting that assumptions about recruitment methods may not hold universally.

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Individuals seeking employment in physics-related fields, particularly those interested in unconventional job application strategies.

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I come across a handful of companies which hire physics grads who do not have a job portal on their website. Does anyone have any experience applying at these types of companies? Does it generally mean they aren't hiring, or do not hire in this manner (perhaps they only recruit)? Would it be wise to just send a resume via their contact us address?

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feathermoon said:
I come across a handful of companies which hire physics grads who do not have a job portal on their website.

YMMV, but the vast majority of companies that I've worked with either do not have a job portal, or the job portal leads no where useful.

Does it generally mean they aren't hiring, or do not hire in this manner (perhaps they only recruit)?

The companies that I know hiring through campus recruiting, headhunters, or through personal introductions.

Would it be wise to just send a resume via their contact us address?

More likely than not, it's a waste of your time. If you send a resume to a random address, then it's just going to go into the trash.
 
Try to find out who is a hiring manager at a company you're interested in and try to put your resume in front of them. Read a book called "What color is your parachute" for some of the best advice on job hunting
 
jk said:
Try to find out who is a hiring manager at a company you're interested in and try to put your resume in front of them.

I don't like the concept of "hiring manager" since it gives a very misleading idea for how hiring decisions are made in most companies. In most companies, the hiring decision is a team decision. The manager makes the final decision, but he or she is going to look at feedback from the team.

Trying to get your resume in front of specific people is usually a waste of time.

Also, the trick isn't to get your resume in front of a decision maker, but rather to do anything you can to get your resume in the system. For that you don't need to know a manager, but rather just about anyone that works for a company will do.
 

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