Applying to Canadian grad schools if you're American

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The discussion centers around the process of applying to Canadian graduate schools, specifically for American students interested in programs like the Applied Math program at the University of Waterloo. Participants explore the differences between master's and Ph.D. applications, funding opportunities, and general insights into the Canadian graduate school system.

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  • One participant expresses interest in applying to the University of Waterloo's Applied Math program and inquires about whether to apply for a master's or Ph.D. and the likelihood of receiving financial aid.
  • Another participant suggests that Canadian graduate schools are similar to those in the US, noting that most students receive some form of financial aid, but international students face higher fees.
  • It is mentioned that Canadian schools may place less emphasis on GRE scores compared to US schools, and that attending a "top tier" school may not be as critical in Canada.
  • Some participants clarify that in Canada, a master's degree is typically required before pursuing a Ph.D., and that many schools allow students to transfer from a master's to a Ph.D. program if they perform well.
  • Funding guarantees for master's and Ph.D. students at Waterloo are highlighted, indicating that all master's students are guaranteed funding for two years and Ph.D. students for four years.
  • A participant notes that the University of Toronto allows students with a 3.5 GPA and strong recommendations to apply directly to their Ph.D. program, suggesting that similar policies may exist at Waterloo.

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Participants generally agree on the similarities between Canadian and American graduate school systems, but there are differing views on the necessity of a master's degree before applying for a Ph.D. and the specifics of funding opportunities.

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Some assumptions about the application process and funding may depend on the specific institution and program, and there may be variations in policies across different Canadian universities.

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I want to apply to a Canadian grad school that is of particular interest to me. I did pretty well, I have a very high GPA (overall and math wise) on a 4.0 scale.

Do I apply for PhD or do I apply for masters? What are my chances of receiving any aid in terms of a TA-ship? How exactly does grad school work in Canada?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

EDIT: Why not just mention the school, it's Waterloo's Applied Math program.
 
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I don't think grad school in Canada is all that different from grad school in the US. Just about all grad students receive some form of financial aid. The specifcs of this are usually available on each school's web-page. Of course, coming from the US, you would be considered an international student, and as such have higher fees than Canadian citizens.

Some differences that I've picked up on:
- Canadian schools place less emphasis on GRE marks if they even consider them at all
- getting into a "top tier" school does not seem so be as big of a deal
- M.Sc. programs are seen as an alternative route to a Ph.D., whereas I get the impression from some American schools that the M.Sc. is seen as some kind of consolation prize
 
Choppy said:
- M.Sc. programs are seen as an alternative route to a Ph.D., whereas I get the impression from some American schools that the M.Sc. is seen as some kind of consolation prize

M.Sc. isn't merely an alternative route; in Canada you must apply for a Master's degree if you only have a B.Sc.. Most schools have the option of transfering into a Ph.D. program if you're doing well in the master's program (the applied math dept page at Waterloo lists this as an option). It would be very rare in Canada to get directly into a Ph.D. program without a M.Sc. first.


As for funding, the department's webpage states,

All Masters students are guaranteed funding for two years and Ph.D. students for four years, at a level that will cover academic and living expenses.

The Applied Math dept's webpage: http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/AM_Dept/grad/
 
U of T (University of Toronto) has a policy that if you have a 3.5 GPA from your bachelors and you have letters of recommendation to back you up, you can go straight to their phD program. Waterloo might have a similar policy that you may want to follow up on.
 

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