Applying to physics PhD programs with a non-traditional background

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of applying to physics PhD programs with a non-traditional background, particularly focusing on a candidate who graduated from medical school and has independently studied physics. The scope includes concerns about academic qualifications, research experience, and the strength of letters of recommendation.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in high energy theory and outlines their background, including independent study and a high score on the PGRE.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of formal physics coursework and whether this will negatively impact admission chances.
  • Another participant suggests that most graduate programs require a degree in physics or a related field, implying that the candidate may not meet this criterion.
  • Questions are posed regarding the strength and recognition of potential letters of recommendation from professors associated with the candidate's research and teaching assistant roles.
  • The candidate mentions plans to highlight specific physics problems in their statement of purpose to demonstrate research interest.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the candidate's chances, emphasizing the importance of evidence of research potential and the competitive nature of applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the candidate's chances of admission, with some expressing doubt due to the lack of a formal physics degree, while others acknowledge the candidate's independent study and research experience as potentially valuable.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of formal qualifications and letters of recommendation, highlighting the competitive landscape of PhD applications without reaching a consensus on the candidate's viability.

Squark123
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Dear all ,

I'm interested in applying for PhD programs in physics this summer. I'm mostly interested in high energy theory. There are two things that concerns me :

1- I didn't take any physics / math course during my undergraduate years "In fact I graduated from medical school" but I studied the undergraduate+ graduate level curriculum independently.To substantiate this claim , I took the PGRE and scored 920 and worked as a physics TA and RA.During my RA years , I independently studied some advanced topics such as Twistor theory , mathematical gauge theory , QFT and other things.

2- I'm also interested in systems biology , biophysics and other medicine related disciplines. Unfortunately , I didn't spend much time researching biophysics , and so I think my SOP may be weaker in this regard. Given my background , Do I have a reasonable chance to get admitted to a physics PhD program studying Hep th?
 
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Missing equivalent course credit for the equivalent of undergraduate degree in Physics, best conclusion is, No.
 
Most graduate programs have a firm requirement of a degree in physics or a related field.
 
Is the person you RA'ed for willing to write you a letter? Is she known in her field?
 
No. But I intend to request LOR from professors who taught the graduate level courses that I attended and also the professors I TAed for. I understand the grad schools look for strong research potential. I'm going to use the available SOP space to highlight very specific physics problems that I have found interesting. e.g. in AdS holography.
 
To give you an idea about my background , I studied QFT and Supersymmetry from textbooks such as Weinberg , Srednicki ,.. I also studied algebraic topology , complex analysis from Hatcher , lang and others. I face some difficulty substantiating the claim that I have this background aside from LOR.
 
If you have no undergraduate degree, claim you did research and the research advisor won't write you a letter, I am not going to waste my time with your application. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Sure, it's possible that you might turn out to be an incredible find, but there's no evidence in your packet that this is likely to be the case. There will be much better prospects elsewhere in the stack of applications.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
If you have no undergraduate degree, claim you did research and the research advisor won't write you a letter, I am not going to waste my time with your application. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Sure, it's possible that you might turn out to be an incredible find, but there's no evidence in your packet that this is likely to be the case. There will be much better prospects elsewhere in the stack of applications.
Vanadium 50 said:
If you have no undergraduate degree, claim you did research and the research advisor won't write you a letter, I am not going to waste my time with your application. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Sure, it's possible that you might turn out to be an incredible find, but there's no evidence in your packet that this is likely to be the case. There will be much better prospects elsewhere in the stack of applications.
 

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