Approaching the Limit: Solving a Tricky Exam Problem

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a function as it approaches the point (0,0). The specific function under consideration is (x*y²)/(x²+y⁴), which was part of a past exam problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore various methods for evaluating the limit, including path analysis and the squeeze theorem. Some question the validity of initial assumptions and the correctness of the approaches taken.

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The conversation includes multiple interpretations of the limit's existence, with some participants suggesting that the limit is zero while others argue that it does not exist. There is an ongoing examination of different paths and methods, including the use of polar coordinates.

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Participants note constraints such as time pressure during the exam and the potential for partial credit. There is also mention of specific paths that lead to different conclusions about the limit.

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limit problem from past exam. :(

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Problem from an exam that I just did is really bugging me.

lim(x,y)->(0,0) (x*y2)/(x2+y4)
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At first I thought the limit didn't exist. I tried using paths, x=y1/2, but then I couldn't find a counter example for which a path approached at a different point. So then I tried using the squeeze theorem, and got that the limit is 0. :\

Was my approach to the problem correct? is the limit really 0? [
 
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You didn't say how you proved it. But yes, the limit is zero.
 


Dick said:
You didn't say how you proved it. But yes, the limit is zero.
Oh really? XD Well I assumed:

0<y2<x2+y4 (since x^2 and y^4 are always positive, and y2<y4

0<y2/x2+y4<1
Then multiplying x into the inequality:

0<x*y2/x2+y4<x

Then taking the limit:
lim(x,y)->(0,0) 0<lim(x,y)->(0,0) x*y2/x2+y4<lim(x,y)->(0,0) x

Which gave me that:
0<lim(x,y)->(0,0) x*y2/x2+y4<0

which by the squeeze theorem, limit is zero. Was that correct...?
 


thepatient said:
Oh really? XD Well I assumed:

0<y2<x2+y4

0<y2/x2+y4<1
Then multiplying x into the inequality:

0<x*y2/x2+y4<x

Then taking the limit:
lim(x,y)->(0,0) 0<lim(x,y)->(0,0) x*y2/x2+y4<lim(x,y)->(0,0) x

Which gave me that:
0<lim(x,y)->(0,0) x*y2/x2+y4<0

which by the squeeze theorem, limit is zero. Was that correct...?

Well the starting point 0<y^2<x^2+y^4 is wrong. Suppose x=0 and y=(1/2). I would use polar coordinates.
 


Limit doesn't exist , try y=x^(1/2)
 


Aaah... I was starting it with polar coordinates at first and it seemed like the best way to go, but then it seemed to messy so I thought I was doing it wrong. I was running out of time and just left it like that. XD Thanks lots, at least maybe I have partial credit haha..
 


lim x->0 f(x,x^(1/2))=1/2
and lim x->0 f(x,0)=0
 


tt2348 said:
Limit doesn't exist , try y=x^(1/2)

Ooops. You are so right. Sorry.
 


Aww darn... it was a 3 part question worth 5 points total on that part of the exam, so I should have 10/3 credit hehe... The rest of the test was pretty good.
 

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