Approximating Change in x for y = 6 to y = 6.01 in y = 2 + (8/x)

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The problem involves finding the approximate change in x that results in a change in y from 6 to 6.01 for the function y = 2 + (8/x). The context is within calculus, specifically focusing on the concept of derivatives and approximations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss two methods for finding the change in x: one using specific values of y and the other applying the derivative concept. Questions arise regarding the validity of the first method and its assumptions about linearity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the differences between the two methods, with some suggesting that the first method may not be appropriate due to its assumptions. Others note the closeness of the results from both methods, indicating a productive discussion on the nature of approximation in calculus.

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There is a mention of the importance of limits in the context of the derivative, as well as the potential confusion regarding the exact versus approximate values derived from the methods discussed.

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Homework Statement


Given that [tex]y=2+\frac{8}{x}[/tex]. Find the approximate change in x which will cause y to increase from 6 to 6.01


Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{\delta y}{\delta x}=\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I did it with two ways :

1.
when y = 6 --> x = 2
when y = 6.01 --> [tex]x=\frac{800}{401}[/tex]

approximate change in x = [tex]\frac{800}{401}-2 = -\frac{2}{401}[/tex]


2.
[tex]\delta y = 0.01[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\delta y}{\delta x}=\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\delta y}{\delta x}=\frac{-8}{x^2}~ \text{where x = 2}[/tex]

[tex]\delta x = -\frac{1}{200}[/tex]


My question is : Can I use the first method? I don't think I can but I don't know the reason why I may not use it.
 
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I think your first method assumes 'y' changed linearly with 'x'. But it's been a long time since I've some small changes. So it is always best to use the second method.


Also it is δy/δx ≈ dy/dx, it is only equal when you take the limit δx→0
 
Your first method gives you the EXACT value of the change. The second method gives you the APPROXIMATE value of the change. 1/200=0.005. 2/401 is about 0.00499. They are nearly equal, which is what you expect.
 
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