Archimedes (Buoyant force) Not EZ

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The discussion revolves around proving a formula related to Archimedes' principle and buoyant force, specifically in the context of a rock suspended by a string both in air and submerged in water. The original poster presents a scenario involving tension measurements to derive the density of the rock.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest starting with a free body diagram to analyze forces acting on the rock, including the net force in both air and water. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between weight and buoyancy rather than solving the problem directly.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to clarify the reasoning behind the formula presented by the original poster. Some guidance has been offered regarding the analysis of forces, but no consensus or complete solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses frustration over previous attempts to derive the formula and notes specific values for tension and the known density of water. There is an emphasis on proving the formula rather than calculating a specific answer.

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I tryied but failed miserabely, i need to prove this formula!


Archimedes (Buoyant force)

Lets say that a rock is attatched to a string, the string has a tention of 5.0N out of the water, and has a tention of 3.2N submerged in water. Now to find the density of the rock, the formula used is:


p rock=(5.0/5.0-3.2)p water


To explain...

density of rock=(wt in air/ wt in air-wt in water)*density of water


Now i need to prove this formula, i would apreciate any help, thanks

Note:
(p=density)

What i know:
p=mv
Density of water is 1000kg/m^2

I tried many different ways but never got a definite answer
 
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You can start by drawing the freebody diagram for the rock, and calculate the net force on the rock in and out of the water.
 
I know all that, i know the density of the rock and everything, i just need to prove the formula (show why it works)
 
i need to prove

density of rock=(wt in air/ wt in air-wt in water)*density of water
 
Start from lost weight in water = buoyant force of water = ...
 

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