Archimedes' Dilemma: The Misunderstood Concept of Pi = 4

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The forum discussion centers on the erroneous claim that Pi equals 4, stemming from a misunderstanding of geometric principles. Participants clarify that this result arises from using inappropriate methods to approximate Pi, specifically by averaging the perimeters of inscribed and circumscribed squares. The correct approach involves using limits and proper geometric shapes to derive accurate values for Pi, which is approximately 3.14159. The conversation also touches on the concept of infinite series and limits, particularly in relation to the equality of 0.999... and 1.

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  • #61
jreelawg said:
Pi does = 4. Don't you understand relativity? Curvature affects the metric and makes distances seam shorter. Sure a circle appears to be 3.14... because the circle is experiencing curvature. In the frame of reference of the square, pi is 4.

I hope this is a joke lol.
 
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It's sort of interesting. The perimeter of a digital circle is 8r, and the surface area is approximately 6pir^2.
 
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Mathnomalous said:
Btw, I, too, would have a problem if my name was Archimedes; what kind of parent names his kid Archimedes!?

Continuing the necro spirit :biggrin:

Archimedes in ancient Greek translates into "the one who gives leading advice" :wink:
 

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