Are All One-Dimensional Vector Fields Gradient Systems?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of one-dimensional vector fields and their relationship to gradient systems, as presented in an exercise from "Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos" by Steven H. Strogatz. Participants are exploring definitions and implications of these concepts in the context of real numbers.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the definitions of "gradient system" and "vector field" on the line, and whether a continuous function can always correspond to a potential function V(x) such that the relationship holds. Some express confusion over the dimensionality of the problem and the implications for two-dimensional systems.

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The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify definitions and explore the relationship between vector fields and gradient systems. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of these concepts, but there is no explicit consensus on the proof or the broader implications yet.

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Participants note that the problem is constrained to one-dimensional vector fields, and there is a recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the dimensionality of the systems being discussed.

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Show that all vector fields on the line are gradient systems.

This is exercise 7.2.4 in the book "Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos" by Steven H.Strogatz

Thanks very much!
 
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Re-read the definitions Strogatz gives of "gradient system" and "vector field", and then answer the following:

What's a gradient system on the line?

What's a vector field on the line?

If you can answer those questions, then the proof should be straightforward.
 
pasmith said:
Re-read the definitions Strogatz gives of "gradient system" and "vector field", and then answer the following:

What's a gradient system on the line?

What's a vector field on the line?

If you can answer those questions, then the proof should be straightforward.

Thank you for your reply!
I tried to prove that ∂f/∂y=∂g/∂x,as shown in the attachment,but failed...
 

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You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm afraid.

"The line" means the real numbers. A http://planetmath.org/GradientSystem.html on the line is a system in which
\dot x = -\frac{dV}{dx}
for x \in \mathbb{R} and some V(x). A vector field on the line is essentially just a function f: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R} which is at least continuous.

So, given any continuous function f: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}, can we always find V(x) such that
<br /> \frac{dV}{dx} = -f(x)?<br />
 
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pasmith said:
You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm afraid.

"The line" means the real numbers. A http://planetmath.org/GradientSystem.html on the line is a system in which
\dot x = -\frac{dV}{dx}
for x \in \mathbb{R} and some V(x). A vector field on the line is essentially just a function f: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R} which is at least continuous.

So, given any continuous function f: \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}, can we always find V(x) such that
<br /> \frac{dV}{dx} = -f(x)?<br />
But the system I consider is 2D,the V(x,y) is not always there for all f(x,y) and g(x,y).So there must be anything else I haven't realized.
 
em,I feel like I understand that "on the line" means one dimension.
I wasted too much time on such a simple question!:cry:
 

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