Choose Math Class for Applied Physics: Vector & Tensor or Nonlinear Dynamics?

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The discussion revolves around the choice between two mathematics courses relevant to applied physics: Applied Vector and Tensor Mathematics and Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos. Participants explore the implications of each course on future studies and applications in fields such as atomic, condensed matter, and chemical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Applied Vector and Tensor Mathematics would be more immediately useful due to its applications in later coursework, particularly in electromagnetism (E&M).
  • Another participant questions the applications of Nonlinear Dynamics to physics, expressing uncertainty about its relevance.
  • A later reply highlights that Nonlinear Dynamics can be applied to biological models and emphasizes the significance of nonlinearity and sensitive dependence on initial conditions in various processes.
  • Recommendations for further reading include Strogatz's "Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos" and "Chaos: An Introduction to Dynamical Systems" to assess the course's relevance.

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Participants express differing opinions on the value of each course, with no consensus reached on which is the better choice for someone pursuing applied physics.

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Participants reference specific applications and areas of focus within each course, but there is no resolution on the overall importance or utility of either course in the context of applied physics.

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Hello, for my degree I have to choose one of the two following classes. I am planning to pursue applied physics, specifically atomic, condensed matter or chemical physics.
So, which should I take?

1) applied vector and tensor mathematics

Introduction to vector and tensor mathematics with applications.
Topics include vectors; vector differential calculus, space curves; dyadic products and matrices; gradients, divergence, curl, Laplacians; Stokes' integral theorem, Gauss theorem, conservation laws; curvilinear coordinates; tensors, material derivatives; applications of potential theory in electricity and magnetism, heat transfer, solid and fluid mechanics.

2. Nonlinear dynamics and chaos
Ordinary differential equations and dynamical systems via a modern geometric approach, including physical and engineering applications. May include chaotic phenomena and fractals.
Much appreciated!
 
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Hmm.. Having taken a course in Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos myself I vote for the Applied Vector and Tensor Mathematics course. In my personal opinion it would be more immediately useful in the sense of its applications. And the fact that your are more likely to need it it in your later coursework (E&M especially). That is not to say that Nonlinear Dynamics will not show up in physics though.
 
Hmm I see. What are some of the applications of nonlinear dynamics to physics? I am not really sure of any.
 
When I took the class we focused on biological models due to the lecturer having done research in that area. Broad answer: Whenever the processes/models which you are observing involves a nonlinearity and displays sensitive dependence to initial conditions quite interesting short and long term behavior happens.

Go by your university library and look for a copy of Strogatz's Nonlinear Dynamics and Chaos: With Applications to Physics, Biology, Chemistry, and Engineering OR Chaos: An Introduction to Dynamical Systems by Alligood, Sauer, and Yorke. Flipping through the table of contents and browsing should tell you if the course will be interesting or not.
 

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