Are Americans really all oil-hungry murderers?

[Andy]

Why didnt you title the thread or include in the first post, this thread is only intended for americans to use so that we can rubbish the false stereotypes that the international community have about us. and then that would be pretty pointless because then you would have a completely one sided arguement, if you look at my first post you would see;

ALL americans are stupid!

Note how i put the word all in capital letters, shame there is no emetcion for sarcasm, i have never thought that all americans are stupid but that is a stereotype of americans that the rest of the world have whether you like it or not.

 

[Monique]

Originally posted by eNtRopY
Sure, I started this thread with the intention that Americans could discuss the ignorant comments they've heard from people of other lands. I did not start this thread so that people like Andy and Monique could tell us how truly bad they find Americans to be.

eNtRopY

Entropy, you being offended says more about you than me. Just where did I say that American people are bad? Is it a bad thing that they drive big cars, is it a bad thing that they spend time on appearance?

You said:
I will tell you this: America is the least prejudice society in the world. You are less likely to find classism or racism in America than any other country.

I will challenge you by asking you to which countries you have traveled. Well? Aren't you being a bit judgemental by saying that the States are the best in the world? *grin* lol

And you said:
You are conclusion about your single observation is erroneous. As an experimental scientist, you should be embarrassed for being so presumptuous.

Again: what I told you is based upon observations.

It IS American culture, are you saying that there is no culture in the States?

Statistics tells you that Americans are over-weight, if you have traveled to Europe you will definitely notice a different trend. And for your information: after two years I am still amazed, day by day, by the huge cars I see driving in the States.. I have other European friends that independantly have found that to be true, the same about the hair and make-up.

So I am saying: it wasn't a single observation, and I am not so presumptuous by thinking that every American lives by that life-style.

Please be open-minded.. I would say that is a dutch trait.

 

[Monique]

WHOOOOAH!

Look what I found!

Posted by Entropy:
I've been to most of the major cities in Germany... my conclusion is that the girls in eastern Germany are prettier than the girls in southern Germany... but the southern German girls are more likely to walk around naked.

So what did the following mean?
I will tell you this: America is the least prejudice society in the world.

And how about this?
You are conclusion about your single observation is erroneous. As an experimental scientist, you should be embarrassed for being so presumptuous.

So eastern german girls can be prettier than southern german girls but americans cannot be more overweight than europeans.. you are in trouble entropy.

 

[J-Man]

EnTrOPy said:
It is inherently anti-American to use stereotypes of any kind.

hahahahahahahahahaha... (wipes tears from eyes)
Good one.

However, I will tell you this: America is the least prejudice society in the world. You are less likely to find classism or racism in America than any other country.

That one's almost as good as the first "joke".

There's a humongous difference in the ideals that we strive for as a nation and how individuals actually behave.

Also, if want a list of stereotypes that other country's think Americans portray, your first source of information should be from people of other countries, else, you'll only get what Americans think other people think about us, which may be more inacurate than the stereotypes you're after. Would you ask Microsoft why linux-users hate microsoft or would you ask the linux-users?

 

[eNtRopY]

Originally posted by Monique
WHOOOOAH!

Look what I found!

Posted by Entropy:
I've been to most of the major cities in Germany... my conclusion is that the girls in eastern Germany are prettier than the girls in southern Germany... but the southern German girls are more likely to walk around naked.

So what did the following mean?
I will tell you this: America is the least prejudice society in the world.

And how about this?
You are conclusion about your single observation is erroneous. As an experimental scientist, you should be embarrassed for being so presumptuous.

So eastern german girls can be prettier than southern german girls but americans cannot be more overweight than europeans.. you are in trouble entropy.

I was waiting for someone to bring these two thoughts together. You're doing very well Monique. However, the difference is that you stated

- overweight

That's about the things I had in mind before coming here.. they turned out to be true.

implying that this is a true characteristic of (all) Americans. Whereas, my statement simply implies that I personally prefer the look of eastern German girls to southern German girls. I am allowed to have a preference aren't I?

eNtRopY

 

[eNtRopY]

Originally posted by Monique
Entropy, you being offended says more about you than me. Just where did I say that American people are bad? Is it a bad thing that they drive big cars, is it a bad thing that they spend time on appearance?

Yes because the implication is clear. You find all Americans to be wasteful and frivolous.

You said:
I will tell you this: America is the least prejudice society in the world. You are less likely to find classism or racism in America than any other country.

I will challenge you by asking you to which countries you have traveled. Well? Aren't you being a bit judgemental by saying that the States are the best in the world? *grin* lol

Is it wrong for me to applaud my fellow Americans for what we have achieved?

In addition to Germany, I visited Italy, Switzerland, Austria, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Canada. From my experiences, I would say that the US is definitely the least predjudice. Have you ever seen the reaction of a German to black American? Do you think that the Turkish emmigrants are treated as well as native Germans in Germany? Have you ever noticed how much Dutch people despise Germans? Predjudice exists everywhere in the world. I'm only asserting that it goes against American ideology and is something that most Americans will not tolerate. In a related manner, I would also say that America has much less classism than any other country. Seriously in America, unlike many places in Europe, it is socially acceptable (and common) for the educated and working classes to mingle in a social atmosphere. There is far less social hierarchy in America than in other countries, and this point can be readily observed by comparing the typical work place of any country to that of America.

It IS American culture, are you saying that there is no culture in the States?

There are many cultures in America, but it is anti-American to start profiling these cultures with statistics. By your rationale, when we look at black American men we should think, "... hmm, there's a 30% chance that he has a criminal record..." rather than "... hmm, all people have potential for being an asset to society..."

Please be open-minded.. I would say that is a dutch trait.

Is Dutch tolerance anything more than just tolerance? Is this really a special thing? Should we all strive to more than just tolerant of others?

eNtRopY

 

[eNtRopY]

Originally posted by J-Man
There's a humongous difference in the ideals that we strive for as a nation and how individuals actually behave.

Certainly, but go to other countries and you will see that narrow-minded thinking (racism, classism, etc) is not frowned on the same way it is in America (excluding the deep South of course).

eNtRopY

 

[Andy]

All Americans want to kill people who practice the Islamic religion so that they can get rich off of oil.

I find this very offensive and i am disgusted with ALL of you Americans that want to kill the Islamic Religion, i am surprised that with a comment like that this thread wasnt locked, after all the thread "les french" was locked very quickly and nobody mentioned killing the french in that topic.

 

[FZ+]

The most disgusting one of them all...

All Americans are George W Bush.

 

[eNtRopY]

Originally posted by FZ+
The most disgusting one of them all...

All Americans are George W Bush.

Yeah, that's another thing I hate. So many foreigners keep blaming us Americans for George W. Bush. They like to act as if every American is a miniature George W. Bush. Has the whole fvcking world forgotten that it was just a few years ago that Bill Clinton was a nominee for the motherfvcking Nobel Peace Prize?

eNtRopY