Are Eigenkets for the Creation Operator Valid?

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The problem involves investigating the existence of eigenkets for the creation operator \( a^{\dagger} \) in quantum mechanics. Participants are exploring the implications of the operator's non-hermiticity and its relationship to the vacuum state.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting up a differential equation based on the creation operator and examine boundary conditions for the wavefunction. Questions arise regarding the implications of the operator not being hermitian and the nature of its eigenkets. There is also exploration of the overlaps between the eigenkets and various states, including the vacuum and one-particle states.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the overlaps of eigenkets with the vacuum and one-particle states. Some participants suggest that if the overlaps are zero, it may imply that the eigenvalue must also be zero, although this is not universally accepted. There is a mix of interpretations being explored without a clear consensus.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the eigenkets of the creation operator may not exist or may have specific properties due to the operator's characteristics. The discussion includes considerations of boundary conditions and the implications of non-hermiticity.

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Homework Statement



The problem is to find the eigenkets for the creation operator ,a^{\dagger} if they exist

Homework Equations



a^{\dagger}|\Psi>=\lambda|\Psi>
a^{\dagger}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2*\hbar*m*\omega}}*(-\hbar*\frac{d}{dx}+m*\omega*x)

The Attempt at a Solution


I use the expression for the creation operator above and set up the differential equation.
The boundary conditions for the wavefunction should be that it is zero when x goes to +- infinity.
When I solve it I get this result.
0=\lambda*x\right|_{-\infty}^{+\infty} - \frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\frac{m*\omega}{2*\hbar}}*x^{2} \right|_{-\infty}^{+\infty}

I know the creation operator is not hermitian and it is not an observable but could this answer be correct?
Could someone please comment on this
 
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Swatch said:

Homework Statement



The problem is to find the eigenkets for the creation operator ,a^{\dagger} if they exist

Homework Equations



a^{\dagger}|\Psi>=\lambda|\Psi>
a^{\dagger}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2*\hbar*m*\omega}}*(-\hbar*\frac{d}{dx}+m*\omega*x)

The Attempt at a Solution


I use the expression for the creation operator above and set up the differential equation.
The boundary conditions for the wavefunction should be that it is zero when x goes to +- infinity.
When I solve it I get this result.
0=\lambda*x\right|_{-\infty}^{+\infty} - \frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\frac{m*\omega}{2*\hbar}}*x^{2} \right|_{-\infty}^{+\infty}

I know the creation operator is not hermitian and it is not an observable but could this answer be correct?
Could someone please comment on this

If eigenkets of a^\dagger exist. What is their overlap with the vacuum?
 
What is their overlap with vaccum?
I don't understand!
 
By "vacuum" I just mean the state |0\rangle that satisfies
<br /> a|0\rangle=0<br />

By "overlap with the vacuum" I mean, what is
<br /> \langle 0 |\lambda\rangle<br />
equal to?
 
...where |\lambda\rangle is the eigenket of a^\dagger with eigenvalue \lambda
 
The overlap with the vacuum is zero
but how does this help me?:confused:
 
Swatch said:
The overlap with the vacuum is zero
but how does this help me?:confused:

So, the overlap with the vacuum is zero. Good.

Now, what is the overlap with the "one-particle" state
<br /> |1\rangle = a^\dagger |0\rangle\;<br />
?
 
I believe the overlap of |\lambda&gt; with the one particle state to be zero
 
Swatch said:
I believe the overlap of |\lambda&gt; with the one particle state to be zero

So, given that, what's the overlap of |\lambda&gt; with the 2-particle state |2>? I hope you realize what the nth question is going to be.
 
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I think I understand this.
since the overlap of \lambda and the vacuum is zero and also the overlap with the one, two and so one particle functions is zero, \lambda must be zero.
Am I right?
 
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Swatch said:
I think I understand this.
since the overlap of \lambda and the vacuum is zero and also the overlap with the one, two and so one particle functions is zero, \lambda must be zero.
Am I right?

The notation you are using above confuses the state with it's eigenvalue.

What we have just seen is that if the *eigenvalue* \lambda is non-zero then the *state* |\lambda&gt; must be zero--i.e., there are no eigenstate of a^\dagger with non-zero eigenvalues.
 
  • #12
Thank you all for your help:smile:
 

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