Are Even Permutations a Subgroup of D4?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the group D4, which represents the rigid motions of a square, and its relationship with even permutations as a subgroup of S4. Participants are tasked with identifying even permutations and demonstrating that they form a subgroup of D4.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the identification of even permutations and question the classification of the identity permutation as even. There are attempts to clarify the definition of even permutations and the criteria for subgroup formation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the identified permutations, while others have raised questions about the definitions and properties of even permutations. Guidance has been offered regarding subgroup properties, including closure and the existence of inverses.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the definitions of even and odd permutations, as well as the requirements for proving that a set forms a subgroup within D4. Some participants express uncertainty about the proof process and the necessary steps involved.

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Homework Statement


Consider the group D4 (rigid motions of a square) as a subgroup of S4 by using
permutations of vertices. Identify all the even permutations and show that they form a subgroup of D4.

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have the permutations of correct. They are: (1,2,3,4), (1,3)(2,4), (1,4,3,2), (1), (2,4), (1,3), (1,2)(3,4), (1,4)(2,3). If this is correct, then the only one that is not even is (1).

Can someone check my work thus far? I know how to go about proving it is a subgroup assuming the rest is correct.
 
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Your list of group elements looks correct. The conclusion that (1) is not even is dead wrong. Better reread the definition of an 'even' permutation. There are four even permutations in there and four odd ones.
 
The four even then would be (13)(24), (12)(34), (14)(23), and (1), correct?

Is 1 even because it is 0 transpositions?
 
POtment said:
The four even then would be (13)(24), (12)(34), (14)(23), and (1), correct?

Is 1 even because it is 0 transpositions?

Yes.
 
POtment said:
The four even then would be (13)(24), (12)(34), (14)(23), and (1), correct?

Is 1 even because it is 0 transpositions?

Yes.
 
I'm having some problems completing the proof that the set of even elements forms a group under D4. I do know that if G is any group of permutations then the set of all even permutations G form a subgroup of G, but I'm not sure how to prove that. Does that seem the like the easiest way to go about it?
 
If a*b is the product of the two permutations a and b, what can you say about whether a*b is even or odd in terms of the even or oddness of a and b? Then to show the evens are a subgroup, show it's closed, has inverses, has an identity etc.
 
OK, that makes sense. I've completed this problem. Thanks!
 

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