How many elements are in two power sets

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The discussion revolves around determining the number of elements in the power sets of given sets, specifically {1,2,3,4} and {1,2,3,4,5}. Participants explore the concept of power sets and question the completeness of their attempts at listing the elements.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to list the elements of the power sets and question the accuracy of their counts. Some express uncertainty about the general rule for calculating the number of elements in a power set.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct number of elements in the power sets, with some participants providing insights into the formula for calculating the size of a power set. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, and guidance has been offered regarding the general rule for power sets.

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Some participants note missing elements in their attempts to list the power sets, indicating a need for clarity on how to accurately count combinations. There is also a reference to the formula for the number of elements in a power set, which is under discussion.

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[SOLVED] how many elements are in two power sets

Homework Statement



a.How many elements are in the power set {1,2,3,4}? b.How many elements are in the power set {1,2,3,4,5}?

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The Attempt at a Solution


a. {empty set, {1}, {2}, {3}, {4}, {1,2}, {1,3}, {1,4}, {2,3}, {2,4}, {3,4}, {1,2,3}, {1,2,3,4}} Are there 13 elements?

b. {empty set, {1}, {2}, {3}, {4}, {5}, {1,2}, {1,3}, {1,4}, {1,5}, {2,3}, {2,4}, {2,5}, {3,4}, {3,5}, {4,5}, {1,2,3}, {1,2,3,4}}

Are there 19 elements?

Is there a general rule as to how many elements are in a power set?

Thank you very much
 
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chocolatelover said:

The Attempt at a Solution


a. {empty set, {1}, {2}, {3}, {4}, {1,2}, {1,3}, {1,4}, {2,3}, {2,4}, {3,4}, {1,2,3}, {1,2,3,4}} Are there 13 elements?

What happened to {2,3,4} and a few more?

b. {empty set, {1}, {2}, {3}, {4}, {5}, {1,2}, {1,3}, {1,4}, {1,5}, {2,3}, {2,4}, {2,5}, {3,4}, {3,5}, {4,5}, {1,2,3}, {1,2,3,4}}

Are there 19 elements?

No. Like the last one, some are mising.

Is there a general rule as to how many elements are in a power set?

It will be just the total number of combinations of 'n' things taken any number at a time, and one more (when you don't select any). Do you know how to find that?
 
I got 16 elements in the first one. Does that look right?

(It will be just the total number of combinations of 'n' things taken any number at a time, and one more (when you don't select any). Do you know how to find that?)

No, I don't know how to do that. Could you please show me?

Thank you
 
chocolatelover said:
I got 16 elements in the first one. Does that look right?

That is correct.

Consider the first problem. You can choose 1, or not choose 1. So, 1 can be dealt with in two ways. For each of these cases, you can choose, or not choose 2. So, total number of ways to select either 1 or 2 or both or none is 2X2=4=2^2. Choosing none means you get the null set. Similarly, for the four elements 1 2 3 4, total number of choosing would be 2^4. All these selections is giving you the elements of the power set. So, the number of elements in the power set of the set {1,2,3,4} is 2^4.

I'm sure you can tackle the next problem using this formula for the number of elements in the power set of a finite set.
 
Thank you very much

Regards
 
Just writitng in general what actually Shooting Star already said and elaborated.

If X is a set with |X|=n elements then: |P(X)|=2^{|X|}=2^{n} so the power set has 2^n elements.
 
Thank you very much

Regards
 

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