Are functionals united with the vector space which they operate on?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between functionals and vector spaces, specifically questioning whether functionals are inherently linked to the vector spaces they operate on. Jake introduces the concept of functionals in relation to spin networks and manifolds, referencing Wikipedia for context. Participants emphasize the need for precise definitions of terms like "functional" and "united" in a mathematical context, highlighting the importance of clarity in mathematical discussions.

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Are functionals united with the vector space which they operate on? For example, Physics is a functional of Behavioral Psychology. However, Behavioral Psychology does not include Physics. Am I correct?

Thank you,

Jake
 
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Is this a joke?
 
jaketodd said:
Are functionals united with the vector space which they operate on? For example, Physics is a functional of Behavioral Psychology. However, Behavioral Psychology does not include Physics. Am I correct?

Thank you,

Jake
What does this have to do with "vector spaces"? For that matter what does it have to do with mathematics?

Perhaps it would help if you gave a precise definion for your use of "functional" here.
 
I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that functionals could be applied to the abstraction levels of concepts.

Sorry about the confusion; I'm new to these concepts.

What got me asking this question is from Wikipedia: "A spin network, immersed into a manifold, can be used to define a functional on the space of connections on this manifold."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_network

So I guess what I'm really asking is: Is the map the functional provides, on the space of connections on a manifold, united with the spin network that is immersed into the manifold in order to obtain the functional?

Thanks,

Jake
 
Also, could you give us a mathematical meaning to "united"?
 
zhentil said:
Also, could you give us a mathematical meaning to "united"?

The best I can do is try conceptually: In the concept of spacetime, space is united with time. Does that bring to mind a mathematical representation?

Thank you for bearing with me,

Jake
 
Lol, this is really funny actually. No offense, but you're not making any sense. :) . These math concepts have very precise meanings... if you want a philosophical discussion, you should ask in the philosophy forum. :)
 
But isn't everything representable with math?
 
No, why in the world would you think so?
 
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What can't be defined with math? That's kind of a philosophy question, and I can already hear objections to this thread turning into that. So if you don't want to, don't worry about not responding.
 

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