Are ionic bonds results of redox reactions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between ionic bonds and redox reactions, exploring whether the formation of ionic bonds can be classified as redox processes. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding bonding types.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that since redox reactions involve the transfer of electrons and ionic bonding also involves electron transfer, ionic bonds can be considered a type of redox reaction.
  • Others argue that while forming ionic compounds from neutral elements involves a redox reaction, forming ionic compounds from other ionic compounds does not necessarily imply a redox reaction unless there is a change in the formal oxidation state of the species involved.
  • A participant questions the relevance of distinguishing between ionic and covalent bonding, suggesting that this distinction may be outdated in light of modern quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the connection between ionic bonds and redox reactions, indicating a strong disagreement with the initial premise.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the classification of ionic bonds in relation to redox reactions.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of redox reactions and ionic bonding, as well as the potential influence of modern quantum mechanics on traditional concepts.

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Because if redox is the transfer of electrons between atoms, and ionic bonding is when one or more electrons go are transferred from one atom to another, wouldn't that mean it is basically a redox reaction?
 
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You're getting the hang of this! If you form ionic compounds from neutral elements, you have a redox reaction. If you form ionic compounds from other ionic compounds (double displacement, for example) there isn't a redox reaction, though unless a change to the formal oxidation state of one or more of the species.
 
completely no relation between the two...:rolleyes:
 

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