Are Men Responsible for Menopause?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of menopause in women and its potential connection to male influence, as well as broader societal perceptions of gender roles as depicted in media. The scope includes theoretical interpretations, humorous takes, and anecdotal observations regarding gender dynamics and menopause.

Discussion Character

  • Humorous, Exploratory, Debate/contested, Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that men are humorously blamed for various issues, including menopause, with one post likening it to consumer choices affecting product longevity.
  • Others argue that societal depictions of men and women in commercials have shifted, with women increasingly portrayed as wiser than men, contrasting past representations.
  • A participant mentions that emotional responses in women could contribute to relationship dynamics, though they caution against turning the discussion into a negative portrayal of women.
  • One post notes that a study indicates menopause may have been preserved by male choice rather than caused by it, highlighting a potential misunderstanding of the research.
  • Several posts reflect on the humorous nature of the thread, with participants acknowledging that the blame placed on men is not to be taken seriously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the thread is intended to be humorous, but multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of gender roles and the nature of menopause. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the seriousness of the claims made.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on anecdotal evidence and personal interpretations of media portrayals, which may not reflect broader societal trends. Additionally, the understanding of the study mentioned is based on individual readings and interpretations, leading to potential inaccuracies.

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The better (IMO :p) interpretation is that if it wasn't for men all women would die at the age of 40
 
Interesting.
I suppose it is similar to going to the grocery store and selecting a bag of chips with the newest "best before" date, leaving behind older versions of the same product. Demand for the newer version being greater would result in its scarcity, and impart an accumulation of deleterious effects of survival on remaining bags of chips. Thus, a ‘death barrier’ should emerge not far beyond the maximum shelf life of chips, Proof would be that the store owner would necessarilt remove the 'aged' bags from the shelf, thereby terminating their existence, in contrast to what is seen in the human female population when past their "best before" date.
 
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BobG said:
New scientific proof that men really are to blame for everything ...

If one is married, it is best to make that assumption whether it is true or not. :biggrin:
 
All you have to do is watch TV commercials to know that all men are idiots and that women are the smartest and wisest creatures to walk the surface of the earth.
 
Borg said:
All you have to do is watch TV commercials to know that all men are idiots and that women are the smartest and wisest creatures to walk the surface of the earth.

True.

From a anecdotal stand point at least , the smartest women I've met are completely different from the "super-women CEO-type" they are presenting in those commercials.
 
reenmachine said:
True.

From a anecdotal stand point at least , the smartest women I've met are completely different from the "super-women CEO-type" they are presenting in those commercials.

And those women that they portray are always depicted as incredibly uptight and largely professional, with no time for fun.

Media :rolleyes:
 
Borg said:
All you have to do is watch TV commercials to know that all men are idiots and that women are the smartest and wisest creatures to walk the surface of the earth.
I've noticed this trend. There was a time when women were depicted as silly and dependent on the wisdom of men to make the right decisions, but the pendulum has swung, slowly, to the opposite meme.
 
AnTiFreeze3 said:
And those women that they portray are always depicted as incredibly uptight and largely professional, with no time for fun.

Media :rolleyes:

and incredibly sexually repressed, but deviant in private. :devil:
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I've noticed this trend. There was a time when women were depicted as silly and dependent on the wisdom of men to make the right decisions, but the pendulum has swung, slowly, to the opposite meme.
I really can't remember the last time that I saw a man who was depicted as smarter or wiser than a woman in a commercial. I think that it due to the fact that men aren't represented by rights groups that protest over every perceived insult. Hence, you'll never see this ad on TV... :-p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0nRvqfiqZI
 
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Non-sense. I could come up with bunches women are to blame, and near the top is that woman-emotional response to virtually everything when in some cases, clearly a more rational approach would be more successful, you know like, "no I don't wanna' do it without a rubber." But alas, I don't want to turn the thread into a woman-bashing one for the simple reason that we both mess up, man and woman I mean. Ugh . . . one more maybe? Vengance. That woman vengence thing that can emerge when you break up with them. A woman can be very hostile after a break up and her emotions are to blame going to the first point I made. Maybe that's the origin of many of her pitfalls, her emotions, but that is the beauty of evolution: we're here aren't we? Somebody took care of us. :)
 
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I must have missed that commercial.
 
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jackmell said:
...

I thought it was fairly obvious that the purpose of this thread was to be humorous. No one is honestly saying that every single problem can be traced back to a man.
 
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AnTiFreeze3 said:
I thought it was fairly obvious that the purpose of this thread was to be humorous. No one is honestly saying that every single problem can be traced back to a man.

Typical post by a man...
 
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micromass said:
Typical post by a man...

Typical post from a female.
 
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A friend used to use "if a tree falls in a forest and there's no one around...is it still a man's fault?" as a sig.

jackmell - :eek:
 
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Borg said:
I really can't remember the last time that I saw a man who was depicted as smarter or wiser than a woman in a commercial. I think that it due to the fact that men aren't represented by rights groups that protest over every perceived insult. Hence, you'll never see this ad on TV... :-p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0nRvqfiqZI

All I can say is that I'm glad she's OK, close call :eek: (as DiracPool scratches his blonde head)
 
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Borg said:
I really can't remember the last time that I saw a man who was depicted as smarter or wiser than a woman in a commercial. I think that it due to the fact that men aren't represented by rights groups that protest over every perceived insult. Hence, you'll never see this ad on TV... :-p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0nRvqfiqZI

There is one that seems like a reasonable group (tho basically managed by one man):

http://www.nationalcenterformen.org/

You won't hear much about it on TV because this guy (Mel Feit) is reasonable and does not fit neither with the far-right nuts on FOX nor with the far-left nuts (incl.feminists) on MSNBC.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M93wql4IcXQ

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool and I thought real analysis was hard
 
  • #20
It pays to be attractive;us average-looking men do not get supported by sugar mommies,so we need to make sure we're good at what we do.
 
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Oh for sure. Beauty can work wonders.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M93wql4IcXQ

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool and I thought real analysis was hard

She comes from a family that heavily modifies their vehicles and that generally aren't too picky about recalibrating their speedometers after installing monster truck tires.
 
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  • #24
The study notes that a menopausal mechanism would have had to predate the effects they are referring to. So male choice didn't "cause menopause", it prevented menopause from dying out. At least that's what I took from that. Could be wrong, didn't read it that closely and am about to go to bread.
 
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What's the standard psi of a highway patrol cars tires, btw? I want to make sure I'm maximizing my mpg.
 

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