Are π1 and π2 True Group Homomorphisms with Identifiable Kernels and Images?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of group homomorphisms defined from the Cartesian product of two groups, G1 and G2, to each of the groups individually. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that the mappings p1 and p2 are homomorphisms and to identify their kernels and images.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the verification of the homomorphism property for p1, with one participant confirming an initial attempt. There are also inquiries regarding the kernels of both p1 and p2, with varying suggestions about their structures.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and clarifying definitions related to the kernels. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the kernels, but there is no explicit consensus on the images of the mappings.

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Participants have noted the importance of using specific formatting tags for clarity in mathematical expressions, indicating a preference for structured communication in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



For groups G1 and G2, let p1 : G1 × G2 → G1 be defined by p1((g1, g2)) = g1 and let
p2 : G1 × G2 → G2 be defined by p2((g1, g2)) = g2. Show that p1 and p2 are group
homomorphisms and determine the kernel and image of each.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I need to show p1(a,b)p1(c,d)=p1(ab,cd)
=ac?
 
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yes that is correct, note you almost have the answer.

When you construct a new group G1 × G2 the group operations becomes (well most of the time) (g1, g2)(r1, r2) = (g1r1, g2r2)

kind request to use SUP, SUB and TEX tags to make messages easier to read to the people here.
 
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kernel we want p1(a)=e
=(e,g1),(e,g2)
 
the kernel of p1 is {e} x G2

again the request to use the right tags.
 
kernel of p2 is {e} x G_{1}

Now I have no clue on image
 
no, it is not
 
Is it G_{2} x {e}
 
Your map was from G1 x G2 to G1
 
Then it's G_{1} x {e}
 

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