Show HK are subgroups of a direct product G, HK=KH=G

In summary, G is a group and H and K are subgroups of G. HK=KH=G. H intersects K={(e,e)} and H=(x1,e), K=(e,x2).
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Homework Statement



Let G1 and G2 be groups and let G be the direct product G1 x G2.
Let H={(x1,x2) in G1 x G2 such that x2=e} and let K={(x1,x2) in G1 x G2

such that x1=e}
a) Show H and K are subgroups of G
b) Show HK=KH=G
c) Show that H intersect K={(e,e)}

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The Attempt at a Solution


a) We can further define H and K as (x1,e) and (e,x2)
We want (x1,e) and (e,x2) to be subgroups of (x1,x2). I understand
that for something to be a subgroup, all group properties must hold
under the operation.
b)I guess this portion is telling us we have an abelian group since we
are essentially showing HK=KH.
HK=(x1,e)(e,x2)=(x1e,ex2)
KH=(e,x2)(x1,e)=(ex1,x2e)
G=(x1,x2)
Want to show (x1,e)(e,x2)=(e,x2)(x1,e)=(x1,x2)
We know HK=(x1,e)(e,x2)=(x1e,ex2). By properties of identity elements
e*x=x*e. So (x1e,ex2)=(ex1,x2e)=HK
Furthermore, e*x=x*e=x
Then HK=(x1,x2)=G

C)H=(x1,e), K=(e,x2)
We want H and K
So, (x1,e) and (e,x2)
I'm not sure how to go from there.
 
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1) You've basically proved this in your last post.
2) Correct, but watch your notation: HK=(x1,e)(e,x2) is a notation which doesn't really makes sense to me. You'd have to write [tex](x1,e)(e,x2)\in HK[/tex]

3) Take an element in H. This has the form (x,e). What does it mean to say that this element also lies in K?
 
  • #3
Ok, I realize 1) now.
For 3) let (x,e) be an element of H. If it also lies in K it must be of the form (e,x). So we have to have (e,e). Unsterstanding wise, I get this, but I don't think this would be a formal way of proving it and that's what I don't get.
 
  • #4
No, it's a good proof. I don't see anything wrong with it...
 
  • #5
Ok, I just wasn't sure if that was formal enough or not. I guess it shows everything that it should.
 

Related to Show HK are subgroups of a direct product G, HK=KH=G

1. What is a subgroup?

A subgroup is a subset of a group that satisfies all of the same group axioms as the original group. In other words, it contains a smaller set of elements and follows the same operation rules as the original group.

2. What is a direct product?

A direct product is a way of combining two or more groups to create a new group. It is denoted by the symbol "x" and follows specific rules for operation and element structure.

3. How do you show that HK is a subgroup of a direct product G?

In order to show that HK is a subgroup of a direct product G, you must demonstrate that HK satisfies the subgroup criteria. This includes showing that HK contains the identity element, is closed under the group operation, and has inverses for all elements in the subgroup. Additionally, HK must be a subset of G.

4. Why is it important to show that HK is a subgroup of G?

Showing that HK is a subgroup of G is important because it allows us to understand the structure and properties of the original group G in a more manageable way. It also helps us to identify and analyze specific subgroups within a larger group, which can provide insight into the group's overall behavior.

5. Can HK and KH be different subgroups of G?

No, HK and KH cannot be different subgroups of G. This is because the order in which elements are combined in a direct product does not affect the resulting subgroup. Therefore, HK and KH will always be the same subgroup of G.

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