Are Quantum Fluctuations Valid Causes for Universe Creation?

[momo666]

You have this paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207
I acknowledge that the "nothing" in this paper is not the "nothing" philosophers talk about.

We have the following objections:
1) Quantum fluctuations are a feature of our Universe so you can't use them as a cause for what brought our Universe into existence.
2)If this were true, we would see Universes popping our into existence all the time.

What are your thoughts?

 

[DaveC426913]

1) Do we know that QFs were not around before the BB?
2) Frequency of new universes would be inversely proportional to the likelihood of them happening.

Take the example of a particle spontaneously tunnelling through a barrier. Sure, it happens all the time with electrons. It could - in theory - happen to a billiard ball through a pool table - but it would take longer than the lifetime of the universe to happen.

Perhaps fluctuations of a magnitude sufficient to spawn a universe only occur once every quadrillion years.

 

[newjerseyrunner]

2) Universes may be popping in and out of existence all the time. If they have zero total energy, we would have no way to observe them from where we are. A billion billion universes may have been made in your finger as you type.

 

[Chronos]

From a QM point of view, the probability of a anything popping into existence via a quantum fluctuation is inversely proportionate to its mass. A Boltzmann brain or massive universe, like our own, randomly popping into existence is obscenely unlikely.