Are residues useful for proper integrals?

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The discussion revolves around the utility of residues in evaluating proper integrals, particularly in the context of complex integration. Participants explore whether residues can simplify the calculation of definite integrals, especially those involving rational functions, and consider specific examples and methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that calculating residues can be useful for solving improper integrals, suggesting that the Cauchy principal value relates to the sum of residues within a chosen path.
  • Others argue that residues, while primarily developed for complex integrals, can also apply to real functions, with references to academic texts and papers supporting this view.
  • A participant presents a specific example involving the integral of a rational function, questioning the usefulness of residues when the contour integral does not approach zero and suggesting that this method complicates the evaluation.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the necessity of using residues for certain problems, suggesting that simpler methods, such as substitution, may suffice.
  • A later reply highlights that while residues can be beneficial for periodic and improper integrals, their utility for other definite integrals may be limited, citing the need for specific conditions to make the contour integration advantageous.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the usefulness of residues for proper integrals. There are competing views on whether residues can simplify the evaluation of definite integrals, with some advocating for their application and others suggesting alternative methods.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the specific conditions under which residues may be beneficial, the dependence on the nature of the integrals being evaluated, and the unresolved complexity of certain contour integrals.

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Calculating residues are useful when we are trying to solve some improper integral, because the Cauchy principal value will be the sum of residues inside the path taken (if the integral along the complex path tends towards 0).

When we have a proper integral of trigonometric functions, this is useful too.

But in general, are residues useful calculating proper integral?

It would be nice if I could apply the power of residues to evaluate an integral involving rational functions.
 
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Although residues were developed primarily for evaluating complex integrals, they can be used to evaluate the integrals of real functions as well. Any decent text on complex integration should include a section on this topic.

This paper has some examples:

http://people.math.gatech.edu/~cain/winter99/supplement.pdf
 
SteamKing said:
Although residues were developed primarily for evaluating complex integrals, they can be used to evaluate the integrals of real functions as well. Any decent text on complex integration should include a section on this topic.

This paper has some examples:

http://people.math.gatech.edu/~cain/winter99/supplement.pdf

I'm aware of that use, but I'm asking for definite integrals.

In general,

[tex]\int^{R}_{-R}f(x)dx+\int_{C_R} f(z)dz=2\pi i\sum \mathrm{Res}[/tex]

For example,

[tex]\int^{10}_{-10}\frac{x^2}{x^6+1}dx=\frac{\pi}{3}-\int_{C_R} \frac{z^2}{z^6+1}dz[/tex]

Where CR is a circular contour from 10 to -10. The problem is that the contour integral is not zero, so we would have something like this:

[tex]\int^{10}_{-10}\frac{x^2}{x^6+1}dx=\frac{\pi}{3}-\int_{C_R} \frac{x^2}{x^6+1}dz=\frac{\pi}{3}-i \int^{\pi}_{0} \frac{10^3 e^{i3\theta}}{10^6 e^{i6\theta}+1} d \theta[/tex]

This method seems to complicate things. But is there any case where it's useful?
 
It's not clear why you want to use residues for this particular problem. It can be handled relatively simply by using substitution.
 
SteamKing said:
It's not clear why you want to use residues for this particular problem. It can be handled relatively simply by using substitution.

Sorry, I didn't explain myself correctly. It was just an example.

I just want to know if it could be useful for other definite integral that doesn't involve trigonometric functions (eliptic, hyperbolic...).
 
wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_contour_integration gives

$$\int_0^3 \frac{x^{\frac{3}{4}} (3-x)^{\frac{1}{4}}}{5-x}\,dx = \frac{\pi}{2\sqrt{2}} \left(17 - 40^{\frac{3}{4}} \right)$$

Periodic and improper examples are more common because closing the contour trades one integral for another. In order for the trade to be an improvement we need an integral to be easily found, zero, or expressible in terms of another. This happens often for periodic and improper examples, less so in other cases. Notice the above example takes advantage of another opportunity, branch cuts.
 
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