Are the inference rules of propositional calculus tautologies?

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The discussion revolves around whether the inference rules of propositional calculus, specifically Modus Ponens, can be classified as tautologies. Participants explore the definitions and distinctions between inference rules and tautologies, as well as the implications of various logic textbooks on this topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that inference rules are relations on formulas, while tautologies are formulas, leading to the conclusion that inference rules cannot be tautologies.
  • Others argue that Modus Ponens is a well-formed formula and should be considered a tautology based on definitions found in logic textbooks.
  • One participant references multiple logic textbooks that classify Modus Ponens as a tautology, citing specific pages and definitions.
  • Another participant counters that Modus Ponens is defined as an argument form rather than a statement form, suggesting it does not fit the definition of a tautology.
  • There are discussions about the definitions of well-formed formulas and whether certain logical symbols can be used interchangeably in different texts.
  • Some participants express frustration over perceived challenges to their knowledge or understanding of the topic, leading to a meta-discussion about the nature of the conversation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Modus Ponens is a tautology. There are competing views regarding the definitions and classifications of inference rules versus tautologies, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various logic textbooks, highlighting differences in definitions and interpretations. The discussion also touches on the distinction between propositional logic and other forms of logic, such as modal logic, which may have different rules and implications.

  • #31
solakis said:
I hope you realize if we say 3+5=7 the whole of mathematics collapses
I think saying Mathematics "collapses" is a bit too strong a statement. After all we don't know everything. Your example is oversimplified but it has often happened that someone has made a statement that has been accepted for centuries only to have it be disproven later on. (Admittedly I don't know of any examples of this in Mathematics...I primarily do Physics.) A false statement obviously needs to be fixed but if we don't know it's false the structure of Mathematics remains.

-Dan
 
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  • #32
No rules the Universe-PYTHAGORAS 26 centuries ago
God gave us the Nos everything else is human invension- KRONECKER nearly 130 years ago
 
  • #33
solakis said:
No rules the Universe-PYTHAGORAS 26 centuries ago
God gave us the Nos everything else is human invension- KRONECKER nearly 130 years ago
Do you have a point?

-Dan
 
  • #34
No is ashort writing for Number
Sorry i don't get your question
I simply mentioned famous sayings about Nos
 

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