I Are the Lorentz Transformations False?

[Herman Trivilino]

Why can't you see SR is wrong?

That was the response of most physicists when the theory was first created in 1905. It took a decade or two of experimental confirmation for the theory to gain acceptance. Moreover, and obvious in hindsight, the theory is self-consistent.

 

[ersmith]

Ok that's counterintuitive. One moment in time in the unprimed frame corresponds to two moments in time in the primed frame.

Sure, just like one point in space for the "moving" frame sometimes corresponds to two points in space for the "stationary" frame. For me, on the train, I haven't left my seat -- I've been in the same place the whole time. Yet someone on the ground says I've moved from New York to Washington. Is that a contradiction?

 

[Vanadium 50]

On the one hand, we have the experimental evidence summarized here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/faq-experimental-basis-of-special-relativity.229034/

On the other, we have arguments described (correctly IMHO) as :sloppy" and "wrong" and by the time we got to the bottom of things, it boiled down to not liking the theory. So far as I can tell, he never read the above message, nor for that matter much of what was posted in his two threads.

Not sure if there is anything else useful to be said.

 

[Orodruin]

Sure, just like one point in space for the "moving" frame sometimes corresponds to two points in space for the "stationary" frame. For me, on the train, I haven't left my seat -- I've been in the same place the whole time. Yet someone on the ground says I've moved from New York to Washington. Is that a contradiction?

At the train platform, Einstein walks over to the station master and asks:
- Excuse me, young man. Can you tell me if Boston stops at this train?

 

[PeterDonis]

And on that note, this thread is closed. Thanks to all who participated.