Are the Two Definitions of Hermitian Operators Equivalent?

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The discussion revolves around the equivalence of two definitions of Hermitian operators in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the operator denoted as Q. Participants are examining the implications of these definitions and exploring the relationships between them.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to prove the equivalence of two definitions of Hermitian operators by manipulating inner products and exploring specific cases. There is a focus on using combinations of functions to derive relationships between the definitions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights and alternative approaches. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various lines of reasoning are being explored, including the use of specific function combinations and simplifications.

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One participant notes the lack of definitions in the initial post, which suggests that clarity on the definitions may be necessary for the discussion to progress effectively. The original poster is working within the constraints of a homework exercise, which may limit the information they can provide.

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Homework Statement



This is something I've been trying to prove for a bit today. My quantum mechanics book claims that the following two definitions about hermitian operators are completely equivalent

my operator here is Q (with a hat) and we have functions f,g

\langle f \mid \hat Q f \rangle = \langle Q f \mid \hat f \rangle for any function f in hilbert space

and

\langle f \mid \hat Q g \rangle = \langle Q f \mid \hat g \rangle for any functions f,g in hilbert space

2. Related formulas

\langle f \mid g \rangle = \int f^{\ast} g dx

The Attempt at a Solution



Clearly the second definition implies the first, but I'm having trouble showing that the first implies the second.
My quantum mechanics book has this as an exercise and as a hint it suggests to let f=g+h
and then let f=g+ih with i being the square root of -1. I have done both of these things, expanding the inner products in terms of integrals. If i assume the first definition and let f=g+h, i can get

\langle f \mid \hat Q g \rangle + \langle g \mid \hat Q f \rangle = \langle \hat Q f \mid g \rangle + \langle \hat Q g \mid f \rangle

doing a similar thing with f=g+ih i get the same result, and not sure where to go from here. Anybody have a better way to prove it or any ideas? thanks
 
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I don't see any definitions in your post.
 
Ah Sorry about that. I've just edited my post and corrected that
 
Start with (Qf,f)=(f,Qf). If you take f=g+h and simplify, you get (g,Qh) + (h,Qh) = (Qg,h) + (Qh,g). And if you take f=g-ih and simplify, you get (g,Qh) - (h,Qg) = (Qg,h) - (Qh,g).
 
isn't it just that

Q=Q^dagger where dagger is the transpose and complex conjugate

for a matrix to be hermitian

such that <Q| = |Q>
 

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