Are There Common Patterns in Group Elements and Associativity Axioms in Tables?

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The discussion revolves around the patterns and properties of group elements as represented in multiplication tables, particularly focusing on the associativity axiom and the arrangement of elements in these tables. Participants explore both theoretical aspects and practical implications related to group theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the multiplication table of a finite group is a Latin square.
  • Others note that there must be one column and one row containing elements in the same order as listed in the table header.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the existence of a pattern for associativity, suggesting that they do not think there is one.
  • It is mentioned that a noticeable pattern in any group table is that no element repeats in any row or column, which can be proven through the cancellation law.
  • Another participant describes the rows and columns of the table as permutations of the group elements, indicating a restricted form of permutation based on selected permutations of other rows/columns.
  • One participant raises a question about the number of finite groups that can be generated from a set with a defined operation, seeking resources that provide deeper insights into this topic.
  • Another participant comments on the lack of emphasis on multiplication tables in standard texts on group theory, suggesting that significant theorems do not typically provide methods for deducing these tables.
  • It is suggested that the subject may align more closely with combinatorics than abstract algebra, with recommendations for texts that cover related topics such as Latin squares and quasi-groups.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on certain properties of group tables, such as the Latin square characteristic and the non-repetition of elements in rows and columns. However, there is disagreement and uncertainty regarding the existence of a pattern for associativity, and the discussion remains unresolved on this aspect.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations are noted, including the dependence on definitions and the complexity of recognizing important properties of groups solely from their multiplication tables. There is also mention of the lack of illustrations and detailed discussions in existing literature.

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While studying groups,

Is there a common pattern/arrangement of the group elements represented in a table?

Is there a pattern for the associativity axiom?

Thanks.
 
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A pretty interesting property is that the multiplication table of a (finite) group is a latin square.
 
In addition to this, another property I noticed is that there must be one column and one row containing elements in the same order as listed in the table header, and correct me if I'm wrong...

But what's the pattern for associativity?
 
dijkarte said:
But what's the pattern for associativity?
No idea... I don't think there is one.

But a noticeable pattern in any group table is that no element repeats in any row (or column). A proof of that is a nice, short exercise.
 
Cancellation law does it.

r * c = x
r * c[j] = x

==> r * c = r * c[j]
==> c = c[j] (cancellation law)
which is not allowed, repeating elements of the set.
 
In other words, each row (or column) is a permutation of the elements of the group... a fact that will have some protagonism later on in your course, so remember this. (I don't want to spoil the ending of the movie :)
 
I see it as a restricted form of permutation where it depends on the selected permutations of other rows/columns.
 
How many finite groups can be generated from a set S and an operation * defined on S such that they are of order |s|, same number of elements?

I looked at Dummitt and Fotte quickly but it does not seem to have any illustrations and tables...barely mentioned in exercises which have no solutions. Is there any text that goes deeper into details?
 
dijkarte said:
it does not seem to have any illustrations and tables...barely mentioned in exercises which have no solutions. Is there any text that goes deeper into details?

I don't know of any standard text on group theory that emphasizes the multiplication tables of groups. I think the reason for this is that most of the significant theorems about the structure of groups don't tell you how to deduce their multiplication tables. It also isn't simple to recognize many important properties of a group by looking for a certain pattern in its multiplication table.

An elementary book about groups with some visual appeal is "Groups and Their Graphs" by Grossman and Magnus. However, it doesn't emphasize the multiplication tables of groups.
 
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This kind of subject is really more the domain of combinatorics than abstract algebra, since most interesting (algebraic) properties of groups can't necessarily be deduced from their Cayley tables. You might try picking up, say, Cameron's Combinatorics, which has some good chapters on latin squares, quasi-groups, and finite geometry that tackle these kinds of things.
 

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