Are there fields where a masters of science matters careerwise

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the value of a Master's degree in various scientific fields, particularly in relation to career prospects. Participants explore whether a Master's degree, such as in molecular biology or information technology, holds significant weight compared to a Bachelor's degree or a PhD, and what implications this has for job market readiness and research opportunities.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that in fields like biology and chemistry, a Master's degree does not significantly enhance career prospects compared to a Bachelor's degree and work experience.
  • One participant questions the value of pursuing a Master's in information technology if their primary interest lies in molecular biology, advocating instead for a PhD in that field.
  • Concerns are raised about the low completion rates of PhD programs, with one participant expressing frustration over the potential for wasted time and effort if they do not finish.
  • Another participant notes that in engineering, a Master's degree is often preferred and can provide an advantage over a Bachelor's degree, highlighting the importance of research exposure and advanced problem-solving skills.
  • Some participants agree that a Master's degree is more valued in engineering compared to fields like biochemistry or molecular biology, where a PhD is often seen as necessary for career advancement.
  • There is a shared sentiment among participants about the need to find graduate programs with higher completion rates to avoid the pitfalls of pursuing a degree that may not yield tangible benefits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of a Master's degree across various fields. While there is some consensus that a Master's is beneficial in engineering, opinions diverge regarding its relevance in biological sciences, with some arguing it offers little advantage compared to a Bachelor's or a PhD.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in degree value depending on the field, noting that completion rates and job market demands can significantly influence the perceived worth of a Master's degree. The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and expectations regarding educational pathways.

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In biology or chemistry I have always heard it is either PhD or B.S. degree that determines your career & responsibilities. If you get the M.S. you are considered not much different than someone with a B.S. and a few years of work experience.

However I want to look into masters that actually matter. What about a Masters of information technology in a scientific field, would that matter? Are there any masters that prepare you for a career in research that actually matter in the job market? The field I'm interested in is molecular biology.
 
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If you're interested in molecular biology, just get a PhD in molecular biology. Why would you switch to IT just to get a masters instead of PhD if it doesn't interest you?
 
tmc said:
If you're interested in molecular biology, just get a PhD in molecular biology. Why would you switch to IT just to get a masters instead of PhD if it doesn't interest you?


Only 1/3 of students who start the PhD earn it, the rest get M.Sc. degrees. To me it seems wasteful to spend 2-3 years earning 15-20k a year and working 60 hours a week if I could get the same level of work experience working 40 hours a week and earning 40-45k a year as a B.S. biochemist. Why bother if you will walk away w/o any marketable career skills unless you are in the 1/3 who make it all the way? I'd like an educational situation where I don't feel like I've achieved nothing 2/3 of the time.

Perhaps I shall look into programs with a high completion rate. I want a PhD though, and I'd gladly take that over a M.Sc. but I don't know for sure if I'd be one of the 1/3 who finishes the degree.
 
Juche said:
Only 1/3 of students who start the PhD earn it, the rest get M.Sc. degrees. To me it seems wasteful to spend 2-3 years earning 15-20k a year and working 60 hours a week if I could get the same level of work experience working 40 hours a week and earning 40-45k a year as a B.S. biochemist. Why bother if you will walk away w/o any marketable career skills unless you are in the 1/3 who make it all the way? I'd like an educational situation where I don't feel like I've achieved nothing 2/3 of the time.

Perhaps I shall look into programs with a high completion rate. I want a PhD though, and I'd gladly take that over a M.Sc. but I don't know for sure if I'd be one of the 1/3 who finishes the degree.

In some fields (such as engineering, I suppose) this might be true. But there are other fields where a PhD is more or less required. Physics, for example, is a somewhat weak BS. If you want to be a physicist, you need to have a PhD. I guess this is why people go for physics PhDs.
 
Yes, engineering! We prefer MS or PhD, simply because the person has had exposure to research and advanced problem solving above and beyond BS. We would consider supporting a promising employee who pursues a graduate degree in a discipline releveant to our work.
 
Masters is the best degree for engineering. A Phd is not required for most jobs and just a BS leaves you doing lower type work (not always, but a MS is a good hand up).
 
Astronuc said:
Yes, engineering! We prefer MS or PhD ...

That is the exact same situation where I work (aeronautical engineering). We much prefer a MS or PhD over a BS. We tend to hire more MSs than anything else, but that is more just numbers than preference. BS graduates have to be extremely outstanding before we will consider them.
 
True, I've always heard engineering is the one field where a MSc matters in the job market. But in fields that I'm interested in like biochem, cell biology or molecular bio it is a B.S. or PhD. I guess my best option is to find grad schools that have high completion rates for the doctorate. I do not want to waste 2-3 years of my life getting a degree (a M.S. in biochem or cell biology) that offers no real world benefit.
 

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