Are these books any good for physics degree in the UK do you think

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of various physics books for a physics degree in the UK. Participants evaluate specific titles, sharing personal experiences and recommendations, while considering the books' relevance for undergraduate studies and self-study in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recommend "Schrödinger's Kittens and the Search for Reality" as a motivational read for understanding quantum mechanics, noting its engaging style and useful bibliography.
  • Others mention "Classical Mechanics" by Kibble as a valuable resource for those returning to physics, highlighting its status as a textbook and its affordability.
  • Concerns are raised about "Mathematical Methods for Physicists," with one participant suggesting it may deter students without a solid mathematical foundation and advising against purchasing it unless required for a course.
  • One participant expresses interest in "Faster Than the Speed of Light" but questions its price relative to its popularity as a work.
  • Another participant critiques A-level textbooks, suggesting they are often poorly constructed and less engaging compared to more renowned works like Feynman's Lectures.
  • A participant notes that Kibble's book includes numerical answers for self-study, which is seen as beneficial.
  • A question is posed regarding the comparison between Kibble's work and similar books by French and Taylor, indicating a desire for further evaluation of these alternatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the value of specific books, with some endorsing certain titles while others raise concerns or suggest alternatives. No consensus is reached on the overall best resources for a physics degree.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reflect personal preferences and experiences with the books, which may not universally apply to all students. The effectiveness of the books may depend on individual learning styles and prior knowledge.

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Students considering a physics degree, educators looking for textbook recommendations, and individuals interested in self-study resources in physics.

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are these books any good for physics degree in the UK do you think or has anyone got any of them and would recommend them ?

>1. Physics (Collins Advanced Science S.) [Paperback] by Dobson, Ken;
>Grace, David 2000 - excellent condition - £22
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>2. Problems for Physics Students: With Hints and Answers [Paperback]
>by Riley, K - New condition - £14
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>3. Schrödinger's Kittens and the Search for Reality: The Quantum
>Mysteries Solved - excellent condition - £4
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>4. Classical Mechanics:A Modern Introduction [Paperback] by McCall,
>Martin W. - new condition - £27
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>5. Introducing Quantum Theory (Introducing... S.) [Paperback] by
>McEvoy, J.P. - brand new - £4
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>6. Classical Mechanics [Paperback] by Kibble, T.W.B.; Berkshire,
>F.H. - brand new - £14
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>7. The Physics of Vibrations and Waves [Paperback] by Pain, H.H. -
>new condition - £29
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>8. Mathematical Methods for Physicists [Paperback] by Arfken, George
>B.; Weber... - new condition £33
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>9. The World of Physics [Paperback] by
>Avison, J - excellent condition - £13
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>10. Electromagnetism (The Manchester Physics Series) [Paperback] by
>I.S Grant, W.R Phillips - new condition - £25
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>11. Advanced Level Physics [Paperback] by Nelkon, Michael; Parker,
>Philip - excellent condition - £22
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>12. Universe, The: Its Beginning and End (Abacus Bks.) [Paperback]
>by Motz, Lloyd - new condition - £2
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>13. Faster Than the Speed of Light: The Story of a Scientific
>Speculation by Joao Magueijo - brand new - £13
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>14. Black Holes and Baby Universes and Other Essays [Paperback] by
>Hawking, Stephen - excellent condition - £4
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>15. New Understanding Physics for Advanced Level (Understanding S.)
>[Paperback] by Jim Breithaupt - excellent condition - £26
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>16. Space: Our Final Frontier [Hardcover] by Gribbin, John - new -
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>17. Atlas of the Universe [Hardcover] - new -
>18. E: The Story of a Number by Eli Maor
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>19. Collins Encyclopedia of the Universe [Hardcover] by Rees,
>Martin; Ridpath, Ian - new -
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>20. Advanced level Pure Mathematics S.L. Green isbn 0723105251
 
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>3. Schrödinger's Kittens and the Search for Reality: The Quantum
>Mysteries Solved - excellent condition - £4

I'm just finishing reading this at the moment. It's a good popular book on quantum mechanics, useful for an undergraduate/sixth former to read to get some "gosh wow!" motivation and physical insight. Also fun reading for an old guy like me thinking of "doing a Brian May" and getting back into astrophysics. Gribbin is a senior research fellow at Sussex University in the UK, as well as a writer of clear prose. By the way, this is better than his "cat" book and can be read stand alone. It has a superb annotated bibliography and points you to harder stuff, or other good popular stuff .

>6. Classical Mechanics [Paperback] by Kibble, T.W.B.; Berkshire,
>F.H. - brand new - £14

Imperial College recommends this as a "catch up book" for old guys trying to get back into physics who want to take their theoretical physics MSc. I've checked out Amazon & other reviews and its on my list of "consider seriously" Classical Mechanics catch up books -- along with Taylor. It's a real textbook, so £14 is a bargain, snap it up.

>8. Mathematical Methods for Physicists [Paperback] by Arfken, George
>B.; Weber... - new condition £33

This book might put you off physics if you attempt to read it without first year calculus under your belt and a lot of hand-holding advice from a kindly (or at least knowledgeable) lecturer. I wouldn't buy this unless you are explicitly asked to buy it for a course. I do have a copy, which I bought in a mad moment of thinking I should know more mathematics. I wish I hadn't. Save your money for recommended textbooks.

>13. Faster Than the Speed of Light: The Story of a Scientific
>Speculation by Joao Magueijo - brand new - £13

I bought this recently, haven't read it yet, but it looks like fun. Another Imperial connection, the author is now a professor at Imperial and teaches the GR course. £13 is a bit steep for a popular work, check amazon, you might get it in paperback for a fiver.

The 'A level textbooks' you mention look really boring -- such books are usually hacked together by mediocre teachers in their spare time. Why read them when you could be reading Feynman's Lectures on Physics?
 
Kibble Classical mechanics is great. Everything is right and to the point. All problems have numerical anwsers on the back of the book so it really helps if you are doing self study.
 
French and Taylor have similar looking books on classical mechanics. How do they compare with Kibble?
 

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