Are W and Z Bosons Considered Gauge Bosons?

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The discussion centers around the classification of W and Z bosons as gauge bosons within the context of particle physics, particularly in relation to the Higgs mechanism. Participants explore the terminology used in professional physics and the implications of mass in the definition of gauge bosons.

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  • One participant questions the commonality of referring to W and Z bosons as gauge bosons in professional physics, expressing confusion about the implications of this terminology in relation to the Higgs mechanism.
  • Another participant asserts that W and Z bosons are indeed gauge bosons, noting that the term typically refers to massless particles, and discusses how the Higgs mechanism provides mass through spontaneous symmetry breaking.
  • A later reply clarifies that the W and Z bosons are linear combinations of the original gauge fields and do not include the Higgs field in their definitions, despite interactions that involve the Higgs field leading to mass terms.
  • Further comments express appreciation for the clarification and indicate a willingness to revisit literature on symmetry breaking.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the term "gauge bosons" for W and Z, with some asserting it is valid while others question its usage due to the mass of these particles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of this terminology.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of gauge bosons and the role of the Higgs mechanism in particle mass generation. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of terminology within the field.

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I've left particle physics after my diploma a few years ago so I am not familiar with all of the slang, anymore. My question is pretty simple:

How common is it to call the W and the Z boson "gauge bosons" in professional physics.

Is it pretty much not used and seen as a sign of the person doing so not having understood the Higgs Mechanism? Is it used well knowing that it's just lazy talk? Or is the name "gauge bosons" really established for the W and Z? Did I simply not understand the Higgs mechanism? Something completely different?

As for the background of my question: Some time ago I was surprised seeing the Wikipedia article "gauge boson" listing the photon, gluons, W and Z as the gauge bosons of the Standard Model. What I learned is that gauge fields are the fields that are required to keep the action invariant under a local gauge, the SM gauge fields being the massless gluons, photons, W and B fields. I would then expect that a "gauge boson" is just the quantized field (maybe this is where I go wrong). However, I've never seen anyone else than me wondering about calling the massive W and Z, mixtures of gauge fields and Higgs fields, "gauge boson" so I am a bit confused. My question on Wikipedia was left unanswered for about half a year now.

Comments by actual particle physicists (please remember that I am interested in the professional usage, not usage on forum discussions), both from theory and experiment, would be very welcome.

EDIT: On the German keyboard, T and Z are next to another. I meant the Z, of course. Maybe some moderator can correct the thread title.
 
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W and Z are gauge bosons. The problem is that gauge bosons are supposed to be massless. The Higg's mechanism is hoped to produce the mass of the originally massless W and Z by spontaneously breaking the symmetry that required they be massless.
 
Timo said:
I've left particle physics after my diploma a few years ago so I am not familiar with all of the slang, anymore. My question is pretty simple:

How common is it to call the W and the Z boson "gauge bosons" in professional physics.

Is it pretty much not used and seen as a sign of the person doing so not having understood the Higgs Mechanism? Is it used well knowing that it's just lazy talk? Or is the name "gauge bosons" really established for the W and Z? Did I simply not understand the Higgs mechanism? Something completely different?

As for the background of my question: Some time ago I was surprised seeing the Wikipedia article "gauge boson" listing the photon, gluons, W and Z as the gauge bosons of the Standard Model. What I learned is that gauge fields are the fields that are required to keep the action invariant under a local gauge, the SM gauge fields being the massless gluons, photons, W and B fields. I would then expect that a "gauge boson" is just the quantized field (maybe this is where I go wrong). However, I've never seen anyone else than me wondering about calling the massive W and Z, mixtures of gauge fields and Higgs fields,

Professional particle physicists do refer to them as gauge bosons.
I think your misconception is in the last sentence above. The massive W and Z are *not* mixtures of gauge fields and Higgs field. The W^{+}, W^{-} and Z are linear combinations of various components of the original W^{\mu} and B^\mu. The Higgs field does not appear in these linear combinations. There are interactions between the gauge fields and the Higgs and upon spontaneous symmetry breaking these interactions lead to mass terms for the massive gauge bosons, but the Higgs field does not appear in the definition of the W^{+}, W^{-} and Z.

Hope this helps.
 
Absolutely, nrqed. I'll have a look in one of my books to reread the symmetry breaking in that light, but assuming you are correct (no reason to assume otherwise), that answer is more than I was hoping for. So thanks a lot to both of you (though I must admit I do not fully understand Meir's answer in the context of my question).
 
Timo said:
Absolutely, nrqed. I'll have a look in one of my books to reread the symmetry breaking in that light, but assuming you are correct (no reason to assume otherwise), that answer is more than I was hoping for. So thanks a lot to both of you (though I must admit I do not fully understand Meir's answer in the context of my question).


You are welcome Timo. You will see that the mass terms arise from interaction terms containing the Higgs field and two gauge boson fields. Upon SSB, the Higgs field is replaced by H + v where v is the vacuum expectation value. But if you look at the definition of the W+, W- and Z, you will see that they are linear combinations of the components of the W^{\mu} and B^{\mu} only, no Higgs there.


Tschuss!

Patrick
 

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