Area of a given interval and volume of an ellipsoid

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a plane cross-section of a given ellipsoid at a specific height \(z=t\) and subsequently determining the volume of the ellipsoid. The participants explore the mathematical approach to derive these values, focusing on integrals and the properties of ellipses.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation of the ellipsoid and seeks assistance in finding the area of the cross-section and the volume.
  • Another participant provides a formula for the area of the ellipse derived from the ellipsoid's equation, suggesting that the area \(A_t\) can be expressed as \(144\pi(1-t^2)^2\).
  • A question is raised regarding the derivation of the \(1-t^2\) terms in the ellipse equation, indicating a need for clarification on the transformation process.
  • A further explanation is given, detailing the steps taken to arrive at the ellipse equation from the ellipsoid equation, including the manipulation of terms and the application of the area formula for an ellipse.
  • A correction is noted regarding the area formula, with a participant acknowledging a mistake in their earlier calculation of \(A_t\), adjusting it to \(12\pi(1-t^2)\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct formulation of the area of the ellipse, with one participant correcting their earlier claim. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the final expressions for the area and volume, as participants have not reached a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made during the transformation of the ellipsoid equation to the ellipse equation, as well as the dependence on the correct application of the area formula. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved.

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I am given a pretty basic ellipsoid:
$$\frac{x^2}{16}+\frac{y^2}{9}+\frac{z^2}{1}=1$$
First, for each number t in the interval \(-1\leq{t}\leq{1}\) I need to find the area A(t) of the plane cross-section made by \(z=t\). This I know should be a function of \(t\).
After that I have to find the volume of this ellipsoid.

So far I have a sketch of this ellipsoid, which was pretty easy because it's just each denominator's square root is the length of the ellipsoid on that axis, respectively. However in my class so far we have only covered integrals and differentiation regarding vectors in 3-space. However to find an area, you need an integral, correct? I guess the bounds of the integral would probably be -1 to 1, but how would I go about finding a function to integrate? I'm assuming you would have to probably put this \(z=t\) in the ellipsoid's equation, but from there would I need to do something like solve for y? I guess I just need a little help getting started.
 
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To get you started, if the ellipse is given by:

$\displaystyle \frac{x^2}{4^2(1-t^2)}+\frac{y^2}{3^2(1-t^2)}=1$

then its area is:

$\displaystyle A_t=\pi(4^2(1-t^2))(3^2(1-t^2))=144\pi(1-t^2)^2$

and so the volume of the ellipsoid would be:

$\displaystyle V=\int_{-1}^1 A_t\,dt$
 
For the equation of that ellipse, where did the \(1-t^2\)'s on the denominators come from? Did you factor out the \(t^2\) from the polynomial or something?
 
First, I let $z=t$ to get:

$\displaystyle \frac{x^2}{4^2}+\frac{y^2}{3^2}+t^2=1$

Subtract through by $t^2$:

$\displaystyle \frac{x^2}{4^2}+\frac{y^2}{3^2}=1-t^2$

Divide through by $1-t^2$:

$\displaystyle \frac{x^2}{4^2(1-t^2)}+\frac{y^2}{3^2(1-t^2)}=1$

Then I used the formula for the are of the ellipse $\displaystyle \frac{x^2}{a^2}+\frac{y^2}{b^2}=1$

which is:

$A=\pi ab$.

Now, I made a mistake above...I should have written:

$A_t=\pi\sqrt{4^2(1-t^2)}\sqrt{3^2(1-t^2)}=12\pi(1-t^2)$

I did not properly apply the formula. (Tmi)
 

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