Area Under Curve: Calculus Senior Year | Uses, Benefits

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The discussion centers around the applications and benefits of the area under the curve in calculus, particularly in the context of integration. Participants explore theoretical implications, historical context, and practical examples, with a focus on understanding the significance of integration beyond geometric interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about practical applications of the area under the curve in integration, indicating difficulty in finding relevant examples.
  • Another participant argues that the uses of differentiation and integration extend beyond simple geometric interpretations, suggesting a broader significance.
  • A participant introduces the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, explaining its relationship between integration and differentiation, and provides a physics example involving distance and velocity.
  • One participant acknowledges the helpfulness of the explanation regarding the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.
  • A historical perspective is offered, noting that concepts related to the area under the curve date back to Archimedes and Fermat, and emphasizing the importance of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus in the development of calculus.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that without the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, calculus would have limited interest and would rely on summing small quantities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on specific applications of the area under the curve, and multiple perspectives on the significance of integration and its historical context are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the audience's familiarity with calculus concepts, such as the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, are present. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the importance of integration beyond geometric applications.

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I enrolled in Calculus for my senior year in high school, so far loving it. Anyways, I have been reading ahead and figuring some things out, but on the topic of Integration, what can you use the area under the curve for? I've tried searching around in my textbook, and maybe just my google skills fail, but I can't seem to find a useable situation for the area under the curve?
 
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Don't get hung up on the geometric aspect of integration. That's like saying the only thing differentiation is good for is to figure out the slope of a curve.

Differentiation and integration have uses FAR beyond those simple geometric interpretations.
 
If you go far enough ahead you'll come across the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus which states an intimate relationship between Integration and Differentiation. It basically says that given a function f(x) for which an antiderivative F(x) is known, then
$$ \int_a^b f(x) = F(b) - F(a)$$

A basic example in physics with real-world application that beautifully illustrates this relationship and shows a need for integration is as follows: An object tracks it's position and records it's total distance traveled at a given time to function d(t). By differentiating this with respect to t, you get it's velocity at any given time v(t)=d'(t). Now, say for some reason you only know the velocity function and need to get distance traveled between two times. You simply Integrate v(t) between those 2 points with respect to t and you have the change in distance.
 
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Thank you very much! I'll have to read into that Theorem
 
You're welcome! Glad I could help :)
 
I might point out that finding the area under the curve in a way that was very similar to "integration" goes back to Archimedes (though I don't recall anyone asking him what it was good for!) and finding slopes of tangent lines to Fermat. It was finding the "Fundamental Theorem of Calculus", showing that these were "inverse" problems, that made Newton and Leibniz the "founders" of Calculus.
 
Basically, UNLESS you had the fundamental theorem of calculus, calculus would not have been of much interest.
:smile:

We would then have added up all the tiny bits of stuff whenever we needed to do that.
 

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