Artificial Gravity: Sci-Fi Possibility & Effects

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of artificial gravity in science fiction, exploring whether it is theoretically possible to create such gravity without relying on celestial bodies or magnetic fields. Participants examine various methods, including centrifuges and constant acceleration, while questioning the implications of artificial gravity on surrounding objects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose the idea of using a centrifuge to create artificial gravity through rapid spinning, though they acknowledge it is not a perfect solution.
  • Others argue that true artificial gravity cannot be created and question the mechanics of how it would affect objects outside the ship.
  • A participant suggests that if a ship could generate artificial gravity, it might disrupt the gravitational effects on nearby celestial bodies, raising questions about the nature of gravity and its interaction with walls.
  • Some participants mention the possibility of using constant acceleration to simulate gravity, noting that this method could allow for travel across vast distances in space.
  • Concerns are raised about the fuel requirements for maintaining constant acceleration over long periods, indicating practical limitations to this approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility of artificial gravity, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the potential of centrifuges and constant acceleration, while others maintain that true artificial gravity is not possible.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the assumptions of fictional technologies and the practical challenges of fuel consumption and motion sickness in proposed methods of simulating gravity.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to writers and creators exploring concepts of artificial gravity in science fiction, as well as those curious about the theoretical implications of gravity in space travel.

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Every spaceship in sci-fiction movie I watch has some kind of artifical gravity. But is that possible? Are there any theories on how can be some kind of artificial gravity created without having a planet/black hole stucked at the bottom of your spaceship or everything magnetised?
So far I only thought of some kind of centrifuge. S hip that spins rapidly creating a kind of gravity. Of course its not perfect, and far from sci-fi kind of ship mechanics, but only reasonable suggestion so far.

My second question: Give it that people in sci-fi movies could somehow fake gravity to around 1g, shouldn't that also affect objects around the ship? You cannot stop gravity using walls.
 
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There is no way to create true artificial gravity nor is there any theory that evens suggests a way. I'm not sure what you mean by your second question. In any scifi movie I have seen with "artificial gravity" it did affect everything in the ship.
 
I said around the ship. Like asteroids or other ships.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I'm not sure what you mean by your second question. In any scifi movie I have seen with "artificial gravity" it did affect everything in the ship.

I think by "shouldnt that also affect objects around the ship?" he means, shouldn't planets, moons, etc that a ship with artificial gravity (e.g. Enteprise) is approaching or orbiting become disrupted gravitationally due to the fact that such a ship would be "leaking" its gravity outside the ship (since, as far as we can tell, walls, or anything else for that matter, don't block gravity)?

Tachyonie said:
Every spaceship in sci-fiction movie I watch has some kind of artifical gravity. But is that possible? Are there any theories on how can be some kind of artificial gravity created without having a planet/black hole stucked at the bottom of your spaceship or everything magnetised?
So far I only thought of some kind of centrifuge. S hip that spins rapidly creating a kind of gravity. Of course its not perfect, and far from sci-fi kind of ship mechanics, but only reasonable suggestion so far.

My second question: Give it that people in sci-fi movies could somehow fake gravity to around 1g, shouldn't that also affect objects around the ship? You cannot stop gravity using walls.

Sheesh, get your physics book! Controlling artificial gravity is simply a matter of modulating the graviton stabilizers :)
 
Tachyonie said:
I said around the ship. Like asteroids or other ships.

Ooops, I knew I should have reloaded this page before posting my lst comment.
 
Tachyonie said:
My second question: Give it that people in sci-fi movies could somehow fake gravity to around 1g, shouldn't that also affect objects around the ship?
If you're going to invent a magic technology for your story, why would you invent it with an undesirable side effect?

Tachyonie said:
You cannot stop gravity using walls.
Why not? You've already invented a fictional technology that can make gravity appear out of thin air, why could it not disappear into thin air?
 
I don't necessiraly need artificial gravity, just something that acts like one. (as I mentioned the centrifuge)
 
Tachyonie said:
I don't necessiraly need artificial gravity, just something that acts like one. (as I mentioned the centrifuge)
It was not apparent to me that you were looking for ideas (presumably for a story). I got the impression you were simply asking about what you see in films.

What level of technology are you looking at? Rotational gravity is probably the most likely source for any story set in the next couple of centuries at least - before any kind of artifical gravity mechanism is plausible.

But there are other more intermediate methods to provide gravity. Have your spaceship accelerate at 1g for the first half of your trip then do a turnover and decelerate. The big setback to this method it that it requires the existence an almost limitless fuel source or highly efficient drive. That isn;t plausible anytime in the next century. It's also a bit awkward for short trips, dogfights or any other situation where the bulk of the journey's course is not reliably predictable.
 
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Tachyonie said:
I don't necessiraly need artificial gravity, just something that acts like one. (as I mentioned the centrifuge)

The centrifuge works fine. The larger the circumference the slower it would have to spin to get 1G at the outer rim. If it's large enough it will not make people motion sick either. As you move toward the center the centrifugal force will decrease and near the center the effective G force will be low enough people can fly with strap on wings.

If you maintain enough constant acceleration you have your effective gravity without a centrifuge. If you maintained 1G acceleration you could get essentially anywhere in the observable Universe in roughly 20 years, assuming you could survive the radiation. You don't want to know how much time has passed back home. Our solar system wouldn't even exist anymore when you got back.
 
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my_wan said:
If you maintain enough constant acceleration you have your effective gravity without a centrifuge. If you maintained 1G acceleration you could get essentially anywhere in the observable Universe in roughly 20 years, assuming you could survive the radiation. You don't want to know how much time has passed back home. Our solar system wouldn't even exist anymore when you got back.
True, but one has to ask how much fuel will be required to power a ship's drive for 20 years straight. Not sure how well Bussards will work in intergalactic space.
 

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