Artificial Gravity Technology: Creating an Implosion Effect

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The discussion centers on the theoretical concept of an 'implosion grenade' inspired by science fiction. One proposed mechanism involves creating an artificial gravity field, potentially in a toroidal shape, which could generate a pull of 50-100G for a brief moment. Such a force would be catastrophic for structures and vehicles, as even modern tanks would fail under such conditions. The conversation also touches on the challenges of designing fictional devices that could function within the bounds of current scientific understanding, noting that while no practical implosion grenade exists today, science fiction allows for creative liberties. Suggestions for alternative mechanisms include creating a vacuum or utilizing gravitational pulses, emphasizing that the essence of science fiction is to explore concepts beyond current scientific limitations. The thread concludes with a reminder that discussions should remain focused on fictional ideas rather than real-world applications.
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I ran across an earlier thread, no longer open for comment, regarding the science fictional 'implosion grenade' & what might produce a similar effect. One theoretical technology might have a possibility of producing such an effect, at least to some extent. It could be an outgrowth of the production & generation of an artificial gravity field while at rest. If someone is able to create such a field in a limited space, and produce it as a toroidal-shaped field around the generating device even if the effect is limited to a 50-100G field for only 0.5-1 second before burning out or self-destructing it could produce an effect fairly closely matching the fictional 'implosion grenade'. Few building construction methods could withstand a 50-100G pull cross-ways to its walls or foundations. Even a modern battle tank would collapse if it found itself suddenly trapped within a 50G field even for a split second.

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If you're trying to make a novel device for a story why not one that implodes and then explodes like a tsunami grenade.
 
I found this forum in a Google search on How such a device might work. Similar devices have been used by a number of authors over the years. Like the OP's linked above I'd wondered just how such a device could function. I'm an omnivorous reader, even of medical magazines you find in doctors offices or around labs<grin>. I don't know a lot of details about anyone field of study but I like to know at Least a little of Anything that catches my attention. So, I'm in no stretch of the imagination any kind of specialist & have little desire to be one but I'd like to think that I'm at Least a fair generalist in a good number of fields At least a little part of what some see as a problem with today's scientists is that the vast majority of today's scientists are specialists in usually a single field of study. Few pay much attention to other fields, even if that field may have a fair bit in common with their own. There don't seem to be enough Generalists with a good working knowledge in multiple related fields that can tell the specialists that they might find something useful to their research in a Different field. Even in automotive design I've seen too many examples where one engineer, say in engine design, never talked to the people designing the body, specifically the engine compartment, to make sure that the said engine will Fit in the engine compartment with enough clearance to Work on the engine. There was a car back in the 90's that in its first year in order to change the oil you had to lift the engine 6" just to be able to remove the oil filter due to the fact that there was a welded-in frame member blocking access to the filter. The following year that member was bolted in place.
 
If th grenade could make a small volume of ar to absolute zero then a vacuum would be made and an implosion would take place as things whoosh into fill the void.
 
True but the lack of mass of the air would severely limit the effects & range of effect. It would likely be useless as a weapon except at absolutely point-blank range.

By the way I Do like your tagline! That original 1951 version is one of the great classics of science fiction! The remake wasn't bad, per se, but nowhere near the story quality & impact of the original.
 
If you're looking for a plausible mechanism under current scientific laws, then you're going to be disappointed. There's no known way to develop a useful implosion grenade at this time. Luckily science fiction doesn't need to be restricted to current science. You could come up with a device that rips electrons from all of the surrounding atoms, which then pulls in all of the protons in a massive implosion. Or something using a gravitational pulse. Or something that doesn't even have an explanation, just a description of its effects.
 
Here you go -- just toss this baby into the circle of bad guys standing on concrete...

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This thread is closed. Please recall that the purpose of this section is to discuss science FICTION, not to make any insinuations that such fiction has or will have any relevance to non fiction.

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