As a college sophmore, what should my approach be for writing a research paper?

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The discussion revolves around the approach a college sophomore should take when writing a research paper, specifically in the fields of general relativity and mathematical physics. Participants explore various strategies for topic selection, research methodologies, and the overall purpose of writing such a paper.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to write a simple research paper on general relativity or mathematical physics, seeking advice on how to approach the task and select a topic.
  • Another participant suggests waiting until graduation to engage in research, emphasizing the importance of formal study and familiarity with literature before attempting to identify a research gap.
  • Some participants highlight the significance of reading existing papers as a foundational step before writing, with one suggesting a daily reading goal.
  • A participant questions the definition of a "research paper," indicating skepticism about the feasibility of producing publishable work at this stage.
  • Several contributions emphasize the need for realistic goals, noting that producing a publishable paper typically requires extensive time and familiarity with the field.
  • There are suggestions to explore specific journals for accessible topics and to consider working under a professor for guidance and experience.
  • One participant mentions the relevance of deep theoretical physics in engineering, suggesting that advanced engineering programs can provide necessary skills for understanding complex topics.
  • Another participant proposes that the writing could be more of an expository nature, focusing on putting learned concepts into one's own words rather than aiming for formal publication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to writing a research paper. There are competing views on whether to focus on reading literature first or to attempt writing an expository piece based on current learning. Additionally, the feasibility of producing a publishable paper at this stage is contested.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of time and the need for a solid understanding of the literature before attempting to write a research paper. There are also references to the complexity of topics in general relativity and the challenges of producing work that meets professional standards.

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I want to write a research paper on general relativity or mathematical physics.

I am a college freshman (will become sophomore after this summer) belonging to an engineering major. In this summer break, I have managed to learn about tensors. Currently, I am following the Respected Professor Leonard Susskind's lectures on General Relativity via youtube.

Before the end of my holidays, I plan to write a simple research paper on mathematical physics or general relativity. Regarding my goals, i want to ask a few simple questions:

1. How should i approach? Are there any initial tips you would like to recommend?
2. How should I choose a topic for my paper, especially when i want it to be simple, but have a choice of complex subjects to write on?

Thanks.
 
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I suggest you wait until you graduate, and pick a supervisor/school that is very active in research in your specific area.

I'll give what I understand as a basic guide to publishing,
1. study subject formally and graduate
2. familiarise yourself with all relevant literature
3. identify a gap in this literature and research it
4. write up your findings and submit it to a journal

It's pretty hard to do any of these steps without having done the step before. I suggest you keep working hard and talk to your tutor/course supervisor about when and where to begin looking for postgraduate options.
 
Step 2 from MikeyW's post is the most important. http://arxiv.org/ will give you a great resource to read papers from the field. I try to get through at least one paper a day, but it's pretty difficult. Lectures certainly wouldn't prepare you to write a research paper...

Can I ask what exactly you mean by research paper in the first place? I can't imagine that you're talking about publishable research, so why are you writing this to begin with?
 
Thanks MikeyW; I really appreciate that :smile:

And thanks a lot hadsed for the link.

Can I ask what exactly you mean by research paper in the first place? I can't imagine that you're talking about publishable research, so why are you writing this to begin with?

I want my research paper to be simple; I want it to be understandable by any smart high-school graduate. I don't dream of a competant or a publishable one, though, I want to cover a small particular area (e.g. tensors, partial derivatives, etc) extensively, in almost the laymen terms.

Um, you can think of it as a show-off, but at the same time, I really want to get an idea how it is like being a theoretical physicist. I want this summer to be the beginning of what I want to become in future.
 
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I think you would get off to a much better start by reading papers than writing them.
 
gikiian said:
I really want to get an idea how it is like being a theoretical physicist. I want this summer to be the beginning of what I want to become in future.

Pick a hard problem. Sit at your desk in your room for hours at a time, alone, working on the problem. Stop working on the problem when you solve it, or when someone else beats you to the solution.
 
I think you would get off to a much better start by reading papers than writing them.
This is a good suggestion vanadium; I was already following it :wink:
fss said:
Pick a hard problem. Sit at your desk in your room for hours at a time, alone, working on the problem. Stop working on the problem when you solve it, or when someone else beats you to the solution.
Thanks. This is a very good suggestion :smile:
 
fss said:
Pick a hard problem. Sit at your desk in your room for hours at a time, alone, working on the problem. Stop working on the problem when you solve it, or when someone else beats you to the solution.
Or find a better solution.
 
Look into working in a lab under a professor. That way you will get guidence and good experience.
 
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DR13 said:
Look into working in a lab under a professor. That way you will get guidence and good experience.

That's good, but my vacations are soon coming to an end, so I don't have enough time right now. But sure, as soon as I get some substantial amount of time, I'll consider working under a researcher or a professor. Thanks :smile:
 
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Anonymous217 said:
Or find a better solution.

I don't have guts to hope for it, but I can still give it a try :smile:
 
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gikiian said:
That's good, but my vacations are soon coming to an end, so I don't have enough time right now. But sure, as soon as I get some substantial amount of time, I'll consider working under a researcher or a professor. Thanks :smile:

You can do research during the school year (which is normal).
 
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You can do research during the school year (which is normal).

My teachers will teach me engineering; not the deep theoretical physics. So I'd like to concentrate on that in the hectic school days o:)
 
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gikiian said:
Before the end of my holidays, I plan to write a simple research paper on mathematical physics or general relativity.

There are no simple research papers in general relativity.

Something that would be more likely to get you somewhere is to look in Physica A and Physics Review E for some interesting topics. Also, if you have N weeks, you should aim at finding a topic and then talking to some professor that is working on that topic.

You should know that for professionals active in the field to write a publishable paper typically takes three to six months.

For a professional physicist to get themselves to the point where they are familiar enough with a new research field so that they can author papers typically takes about a year of full time study.

1. How should i approach? Are there any initial tips you would like to recommend?

Have realistic goals. You aren't going to get a publishable paper in general relativity out in two months. You should set your goals to something that you can do that would be useful. For example, in one month, you become familiar enough with the physics literature to find a problem that would be interesting.

2. How should I choose a topic for my paper, especially when i want it to be simple, but have a choice of complex subjects to write on?

Spend a few hours a day in the library reading journals. The reason I think it's better for you to start with Physical Review E rather than Physical Review D is that if you go through a stack of Physical Review E papers you'll likely find something that you've have the math for, so that that point it's just a matter of learning the physics.

Also look at what the professors at your university are doing. It will help a lot if you work on a topic that people at your university are also working on.
 
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gikiian said:
My teachers will teach me engineering; not the deep theoretical physics. So I'd like to concentrate on that in the hectic school days o:)

There's a lot of deep theoretical physics in engineering. For example, if you want to do anything with general relativity, then you need to be very good at tensor calculus, and this is the type of stuff that you can get in advanced engineering programs.

The problem is that it sounds a lot like you are suffering from the "Steven Hawking syndrome" and if you want to be a productive theoretical physicist, you need to get out of the syndrome.

One reason reading Physics Rev. E would be useful is that hopefully you will find something research topic that is relevant to the things that your teachers are working on.
 
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gikiian said:
1. How should i approach? Are there any initial tips you would like to recommend?
2. How should I choose a topic for my paper, especially when i want it to be simple, but have a choice of complex subjects to write on?

Thanks.

It sounds like you just want to right an expository on some topic you're now learning about -- put it in your own words. Why not just do exactly that?

You're not going to be able to write anything anyone from the last hundred years would call a research paper, or even a review article. So really, this is for you more than anyone else. Just open up a LaTeX editor and start writing on whatever you want. It won't put you in the shoes of a real physicist -- you'll need an advisor to show you that.
 

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