[ASK] Equation of a Circle in the First Quadrant

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The discussion revolves around determining the equation of a circle located in the first quadrant, with its center on the line y = 2x and tangent to the Y-axis at the point (0, 6). Participants explore the implications of these conditions on the circle's equation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 introduces the problem and provides several potential equations for the circle, while deriving relationships based on the center's coordinates.
  • Post 2 asserts that the center of the circle is at (3, 6) based on the tangency condition and derives the equation of the circle from this point.
  • Post 3 questions the derivation of x = 3 from the point (0, 6), seeking clarification on the reasoning.
  • Post 4 provides an explanation that the tangency at (0, 6) implies the radius is vertical, leading to the conclusion that the center's y-coordinate must be 6, thus x = 3.
  • Post 5 reiterates the explanation provided in Post 4, while also acknowledging a misunderstanding of the terms "lies" and "lays".

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Participants generally agree on the center's coordinates being (3, 6) based on the tangency condition, but there is some confusion regarding the derivation of this conclusion. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the clarity of the reasoning behind the calculation.

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The center of circle L is located in the first quadrant and lays on the line y = 2x. If the circle L touches the Y-axis at (0,6), the equation of circle L is ...
a. $$x^2+y^2-3x-6y=0$$
b. $$x^2+y^2-12x-6y=0$$
c. $$x^2+y^2+6x+12y-108=0$$
d. $$x^2+y^2+12x+6y-72=0$$
e. $$x^2+y^2-6x-12y+36=0$$

Since the center (a, b) lays in the line y = 2x then b = 2a.
$$(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2$$
$$(0-a)^2+(6-b)^2=r^2$$
$$(-a)^2+(6-2a)^2=r^2$$
$$a^2+36-24a+4a^2=r^2$$
$$5a^2-24a+36=r^2$$
What should I do after this?
 
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circle center at $(x,2x)$

circle tangent to the y-axis at $(0,6) \implies x=3$

$(x-3)^2+(y-6)^2 = 3^2$

$x^2-6x+9+y^2-12y+36 =9$

$x^2+y^2-6x-12y+36=0$
 
skeeter said:
circle center at $(x,2x)$

circle tangent to the y-axis at $(0,6) \implies x=3$

How did you get x = 3 from (0, 6)?
 
Monoxdifly said:
How did you get x = 3 from (0, 6)?
The fact that the y-axis is tangent to the circle at (0, 6) means that the line y= 6 is a radius so the y coordinate of the center of the circle is 6. And since the center is at (x, 2x), y= 2x= 6 so x= 3.

(And the center of the circle "lies on the line y= 2x", not "lays".)
 
HallsofIvy said:
The fact that the y-axis is tangent to the circle at (0, 6) means that the line y= 6 is a radius so the y coordinate of the center of the circle is 6. And since the center is at (x, 2x), y= 2x= 6 so x= 3.

(And the center of the circle "lies on the line y= 2x", not "lays".)

Well, I admit I kinda suck at English. I usually use "lies" as "deceives" and "lays" as "is located". Thanks for the help, anyway. Your explanation is easy to understand.
 

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