[ASK] Make x and y the Subjects: x^3-3xy^2=a, 3x^2y-y^3=b

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The discussion centers on solving the equations $$x^3 - 3xy^2 = a$$ and $$3x^2y - y^3 = b$$ for the variables x and y. The user attempts to manipulate the equations and arrives at the expression $$(x - y)(x^2 + 4xy + y^2) = a + b$$ but struggles to progress further. A key insight is provided by another user, who suggests using complex numbers, leading to the formulation $$(x + iy)^3 = a + ib$$. This results in the solutions $$x = \operatorname{Re}(a + ib)^{1/3}$$ and $$y = \operatorname{Im}(a + ib)^{1/3}$$, indicating three possible solutions for x and y due to the nature of cube roots.

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$$x^3-3xy^2=a$$
$$3x^2y-y^3=b$$
make a formula using a and b for x and y.

What I've done:
$$x^3-3xy^2+3x^2y-y^3=a+b$$
$$x^3+3x^2y-3xy^2-y^3=a+b$$
$$(x-y)(x^2+4xy+y^2)=a+b$$
I don't know what to do from here. Any hints?
 
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Monoxdifly said:
$$x^3-3xy^2=a$$
$$3x^2y-y^3=b$$
make a formula using a and b for x and y.

What I've done:
$$x^3-3xy^2+3x^2y-y^3=a+b$$
$$x^3+3x^2y-3xy^2-y^3=a+b$$
$$(x-y)(x^2+4xy+y^2)=a+b$$
I don't know what to do from here. Any hints?
It looks to me as though this question is designed to be tackled using complex numbers. In fact, if you add $i$ times the second equation to the first equation, you get $x^3-3xy^2 + i(3x^2y-y^3) = a + ib$, which can be written $(x+iy)^3 = a + ib$. So $x+iy = (a+ib)^{1/3}$, and the solutions for $x$ and $y$ are then $$x = \operatorname{Re}(a+ib)^{1/3}, \qquad y = \operatorname{Im}(a+ib)^{1/3}.$$ Since a complex number has three cube roots, those formulas give three solutions for $x$ and $y$.
 
Opalg said:
It looks to me as though this question is designed to be tackled using complex numbers. In fact, if you add $i$ times the second equation to the first equation, you get $x^3-3xy^2 + i(3x^2y-y^3) = a + ib$, which can be written $(x+iy)^3 = a + ib$. So $x+iy = (a+ib)^{1/3}$, and the solutions for $x$ and $y$ are then $$x = \operatorname{Re}(a+ib)^{1/3}, \qquad y = \operatorname{Im}(a+ib)^{1/3}.$$ Since a complex number has three cube roots, those formulas give three solutions for $x$ and $y$.

Complex number, eh? So, it's definitely not for high-schoolers, then.
 
If the equations were ...

$$x^3+3xy^2=a$$
$$3x^2y+y^3=b$$

... then the problem would fit the level of this forum.
 
skeeter said:
If the equations were ...

$$x^3+3xy^2=a$$
$$3x^2y+y^3=b$$

... then the problem would fit the level of this forum.

Guess I better change the question to that and make the answer $$x+y=\sqrt[3]{a+b}$$.
 
... could also be $x-y=\sqrt[3]{a-b}$
 
Ugh... If only that$$3xy^2$$ on the question was positive, this would be easy to answer.
 

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