MHB [ASK]Quadratic Inequation (log_2x)^2+4>5log_7x+log_3x^2

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The discussion focuses on solving the quadratic inequation $$(\log_2 x)^2 + 4 > 5 \log_7 x + \log_3 x^2$$. Participants clarify the transformation of the inequation into a standard quadratic form, specifically $4y^2 - by + 1 > 0$, where \(y = \log_3(x)\) and \(b \approx 3.04\). The quadratic formula is applied to determine the values of \(y\) that satisfy the inequality, leading to conditions on \(x\) expressed in terms of natural logarithms. The discussion also addresses potential confusion regarding logarithmic notation and the parameters used in the quadratic formula.

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$$(log_2x)^2+4>5log_7x+log_3x^2$$
This is what I've done so far (attached):

How to solve the quadratic inequation formed? Factorization is an obvious no, and the quadratic formula will just make everything messier, is there any other way?
 

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Your use of a superscript-prefix for logarithm base, ^3log x, rather than a subsript, log_3(x), is a bit confusing and sometimes very misleading as what should be 2 log_3(x) is given as 2^3 log(x) where the base of the logarithm looks like an exponent on 2. In any case, if I am reading it correctly you wind up with 4(log_x(2))^2- (5 log_7(2)+ 2log_3(2)) log_x(2)+ 1> 0. I would write that 4y^2- by+ 1> 0 with y= log_3(x) and b= 5 log7(2)+ 2log3(2) which is approximately 3.04.

By the quadratic formula, y is 0 for \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8}. Since the leading coefficient of the quadratic is positive, the graph of the quadratic is a parabola opening upward. The inequality will be satisfied for y= log_x(2)= \frac{ln(x)}{ln(2)}&gt; \frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8} or y= log_x(2)= \frac{ln(x)}{ln(2)}&lt; \frac{-b-\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8}. Since ln(2) is positive, that is the same as ln(x)&gt; <div style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8}</span>&#8203;</div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><br /> </span> so x&gt; e^{<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8}}</span></span>
and x&lt; e^{ln(2)<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">\frac{-b-\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8}}</span>
. Use b= 3.04, approximately, to get a numeric answer if you need it.



 
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HallsofIvy said:
Since ln(2) is positive, that is the same as ln(x)&gt; <div style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">\frac{-b+\sqrt{b^2- 4}}{8}</span>&#8203;</div><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><br /> </span>
<span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><br /> <br /> How did the ln(2) vanish just because it&#039;s positive? Also, are you sure that what&#039;s in the square roots should be $$b^2-4$$ instead of $$b^2-16$$?</span>
 

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