Assignment calculus,simultaneous equation and logarithm

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The discussion revolves around calculus problems involving differentiation, simultaneous equations, and logarithmic modeling of profits. The original poster expresses confusion regarding their differentiation of the function 3e^-4t sin(5t) and seeks clarification on their approach and results. Additionally, they present a problem related to modeling a firm's profits and a simultaneous equation question.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate a product of functions using the product rule and expresses uncertainty about their results compared to those from WolframAlpha. They also inquire about plotting data on semi-log paper to verify a proposed relationship and seek guidance on simultaneous equations.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided feedback on the differentiation process, noting potential errors in notation and reasoning. Some have suggested clarifying the function's format for accurate differentiation. The discussion includes multiple interpretations of the problems presented, and there is an ongoing exploration of the approaches to the simultaneous equations and profit modeling.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions confusion regarding the use of notation and the setup of their problems, indicating a need for clearer guidance on mathematical conventions and plotting techniques. There is also a suggestion to separate different problems into distinct threads for clarity.

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Homework Statement



Hi, teachers

I have been doing some work but I am confused.

Have you ever heard of this great math website www.wolframalpha.com (Google for maths).

This is one questions I done differantiate 3e^-4tsin(5t) and here is the link for the answers from

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=differantiate++3e^-4tsin(5t)


Although what I did is confusing to what the answers there?


This my solution

y=3e^-4t sin(5t)

u=3e^-4t v =sin(5t)

dy/dt=-12e^-4t dv/dt=-5cos(5t)


chain rule/product rule (1 of them)

ds/dt= 3e^-4t x 5cos(5t) + sin(5t) x -12e^-4t

factor

=3e^-4t (5cos(5t) - 4sin (5t))

Am I or the computer correct ?



Also while you are there? May you look at these two questions below


1) The table gives a firm’s monthly profits for their first few months of business. The numbers are rounded to the nearest £100.


Number of months after start up (x) 1 2 3 4 5 6
Profit for this month (£y) 500 800 1200 1900 3000 4800


The firm’s profits, £y, for the xth month after start up are modeled by

y = k x 10ax

where a and k are constants.

Plot this data on semi log paper to verify if this relationship is true.

Its about plotting semi-log paper but am confused. Can you give me guide on where to start answering the question.

Thanx agin



2)
Simultaneos question
y = x2 – 5x + 5 a



5x + 3y = 30. b



Find location of points collide?


Add a+b

x2 + 2y -25=0


quadratic formula use

x= -2+ square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x = 4.09901

or

x= -2 - square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x=-6.09


subsitue y etc
 
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maali5 said:

Homework Statement



Hi, teachers

I have been doing some work but I am confused.

Have you ever heard of this great math website www.wolframalpha.com (Google for maths).

This is one questions I done differantiate 3e^-4tsin(5t) and here is the link for the answers from

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=differantiate++3e^-4tsin(5t)


Although what I did is confusing to what the answers there?


This my solution

y=3e^-4t sin(5t)

u=3e^-4t v =sin(5t)

dy/dt=-12e^-4t dv/dt=-5cos(5t)
The first derivative is du/dt, not dy/dt.
In the other derivative, you have a sign error.
maali5 said:
chain rule/product rule (1 of them)

ds/dt= 3e^-4t x 5cos(5t) + sin(5t) x -12e^-4t
Why ds/dt? Your original function is y, so the derivative would be dy/dt.

Also, don't use x for multiplication. If there happens to be a variable named x, you will confuse yourself.
maali5 said:
factor

=3e^-4t (5cos(5t) - 4sin (5t))

Am I or the computer correct ?
This looks fine to me.
maali5 said:
Also while you are there? May you look at these two questions below
Please start a new thread with each of these problems.

Be sure to include the three parts of the homework template.
maali5 said:
1) The table gives a firm’s monthly profits for their first few months of business. The numbers are rounded to the nearest £100.


Number of months after start up (x) 1 2 3 4 5 6
Profit for this month (£y) 500 800 1200 1900 3000 4800


The firm’s profits, £y, for the xth month after start up are modeled by

y = k x 10ax
Again, don't use x for multiplication
maali5 said:
where a and k are constants.

Plot this data on semi log paper to verify if this relationship is true.

Its about plotting semi-log paper but am confused. Can you give me guide on where to start answering the question.

Thanx agin



2)
Simultaneos question
y = x2 – 5x + 5 a



5x + 3y = 30. b



Find location of points collide?


Add a+b

x2 + 2y -25=0


quadratic formula use

x= -2+ square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x = 4.09901

or

x= -2 - square root(2^2-(4x1x(-25))/2 x=-6.09


subsitue y etc
 
maali5 said:
...

Have you ever heard of this great math website www.wolframalpha.com (Google for maths).

This is one questions I done differentiate 3e^-4tsin(5t) and here is the link for the answers from

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=differantiate++3e^-4tsin(5t)

...

Hello maali5. Welcome to PF !

I used the link. What you asked WolframAlpha to differentiate, 3e^-4tsin(5t) , is equivalent to differentiating
\displaystyle\frac{3 t\sin(5 t)}{e^4}\,.​
You need to put parentheses around the -4t if you want WolframAlpha to differentiate
\displaystyle\frac{3 \sin(5 t)}{e^{4t}}\,.​
Write your function as 3e^(-4t)sin(5t) .
 
SammyS said:
Hello maali5. Welcome to PF !

I used the link. What you asked WolframAlpha to differentiate, 3e^-4tsin(5t) , is equivalent to differentiating
\displaystyle\frac{3 t\sin(5 t)}{e^4}\,.​
You need to put parentheses around the -4t if you want WolframAlpha to differentiate
\displaystyle\frac{3 \sin(5 t)}{e^{4t}}\,.​
Write your function as 3e^(-4t)sin(5t) .


Thanx for your help. I got it.
 

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