ASTM D394-47(B): Info and History

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The discussion revolves around the ASTM D394-47(B) standard, its history, and the challenges in locating information about it. Participants explore the availability of withdrawn standards and potential replacements, focusing on the context of standards review and archival practices.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the existence of ASTM D394-47(B) and express difficulty in finding it, noting that only ASTM D394-59(1965) is available and that it was withdrawn in 1969.
  • One participant suggests that the nomenclature might be incorrect, as their search yielded no results for ASTM D394-47(B) on ASTM's website.
  • Another participant mentions that withdrawn standards are not available in electronic format and may have been superseded by newer standards, indicating a need to consult physical archives from 1947-1950.
  • There is a suggestion that the Linda Hall library might have copies of older standards, although they may discard very old publications.
  • One participant notes that they can access electronic copies of superseded military and aerospace specifications through IHS, questioning if a similar service exists for ASTM standards.
  • A question is raised regarding whether there is a replacement standard for the abrasion resistance test that encompasses the scope of the old standard.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of locating information about withdrawn standards and the potential for superseding documents, but multiple competing views remain regarding the availability and access to these standards.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the uncertainty about the nomenclature of the standard, the lack of electronic availability for withdrawn standards, and the dependence on physical archives for historical documents.

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Has anybody heard of this code, ASTM D394-47(B)?
I can only find ASTM D394-59(1965) and it as already withdrawn at 1969.
Thank you!
 
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I looked through our specs catalogs and did not find any reference other than the -59. I also did a search of ASTM's website and nothing comes up there. Are you sure about the nomenclature?
 
pikkie said:
Has anybody heard of this code, ASTM D394-47(B)?
I can only find ASTM D394-59(1965) and it as already withdrawn at 1969.
Thank you!
Withdrawn standards would not be available in electronic format. That particular standard may have been superceded by another standard.

One would have to find one of the Standard books from 1947-1950. Standards are reviewed on a cycle of about 4 years, or if someone in the responsible committee sees a need to revise a standard.

The Linda Hall library might have a copy, but they also tend to discard very old publications. :frown:

http://www.lindahall.org
http://www.lindahall.org/services/document_delivery/

A withdrawn standard is an ASTM standard that has been discontinued by the ASTM Sponsoring Committee responsible for the standard.

A standard may be withdrawn with or without replacement.

ASTM makes withdrawn standards available for informational purposes.
One would have to contact ASTM, or better the sponsoring committee within ASTM regarding this standard or its replacement, if such a replacement exists.
 
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I know through IHS that I can view electronic copies of superceded and revised MIL and AS specs. I don't know if that is the same with ASTM though.
 
If it's the abrasion resistance test standard, isn't there a replacement of some kind or one which contains the scope of the old one as well?
 

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