Astrophysics masters' or PhD after engineering degree?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the possibility of pursuing postgraduate studies in astrophysics or theoretical physics for someone with a Mechanical Engineering degree, specifically with a specialization in aeronautical engineering. Participants explore the educational pathways and prerequisites necessary for transitioning from engineering to physics, considering both master's and PhD programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is feasible to pursue astrophysics or theoretical physics with a Mechanical Engineering background.
  • Another participant suggests that most universities do not offer specialized undergraduate degrees in astrophysics or theoretical physics, implying that a physics major is more suitable for graduate studies in these fields.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of an engineering education in providing the necessary background for graduate-level physics, particularly in classical mechanics, electromagnetism, and quantum physics.
  • A participant mentions a specific degree offered by NUS in Physics with a specialization in astrophysics, expressing interest in this option.
  • There is a discussion about the demand for jobs in astrophysics and theoretical physics, with uncertainty about future job market trends.
  • Another participant clarifies the meaning of "theoretical physics," noting its broad application across various fields and the distinction between theoretical and experimental physicists.
  • It is noted that while it is not uncommon for individuals with non-physics degrees to pursue graduate studies in physics, they may need to catch up on foundational knowledge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of transitioning from an engineering background to astrophysics or theoretical physics. There is no consensus on the adequacy of an engineering degree for this purpose, and concerns about job market demand remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in undergraduate education related to physics, noting that engineering programs may not cover the breadth of topics required for graduate studies in physics. There is also a mention of the importance of specific coursework that may not be included in a typical engineering curriculum.

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Hey all! I'm new to this forum. Anyway i have a burning question which i cannot seem to find among these forum posts (even after toiling through). Is it possible to pursue astrophysics or theoretical physics for that matter in your post grad studies, even though I got an Mechanical Engineering(ME) degree (with specialization in aeronautical engineering)?

Thanks! :D
 
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Ethan Wong said:
Hey all! I'm new to this forum. Anyway i have a burning question which i cannot seem to find among these forum posts (even after toiling through). Is it possible to pursue astrophysics or theoretical physics for that matter in your post grad studies, even though I got an Mechanical Engineering(ME) degree (with specialization in aeronautical engineering)?

Thanks! :D

Without you revealing where you are, where you got your education, where you intend to pursue your education, etc. (why do people often neglect these things?), I can only point to a thread that has a lengthy discussion on a similar topic:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...if-my-bachelors-degree-isnt-in-physics.64966/

Zz.
 
Ohmigosh, my apolicies as I was too excited crafting out my question, my bad

I'm currently awaiting my GCE A Level results, studying in Singapore; universities here offer Most engineering degrees and science courses. However, there's no one science course that narrows down to the theoretical or astronomy aspect. I'll only be able to enrol in university in 2017 (due to the mandatory Army service we have to serve for 2 years)

The only promising ones are Mechanical engineering (with different specializations such as aeronautical, energy systems, offshore/oil technogy)
and engineering science (specialisation in nano tech, optics, computing, chemical systems)

However id really like to pursue astrophysics or even theoretical physics in the end (I plan to do my phD)

My question is: is it even possible for an ME grad to take masters then PhD in my field of interest? For me funding and age where I settle down are not such big issues here.

Thanks and sorry for not mentioning this earlier!
 
Most universities do not offer such specialization at the undergraduate level. If you want to do "theoretical physics" (do you even know what that is?) or astrophysics, then you should major in physics at the undergraduate level, not "mechanical engineering". That latter doesn't adequately equipped you with the necessary undergraduate education to pursue a graduate work in those two areas.

Zz.
 
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Oh I see, hmm. Not even engineering science allows for it?
I did my work and came across this degree offered by NUS: Physics(with specialisation in astrophysics)
Sounds good?

But I also am concerned about the demand for such jobs now adays (will it ever shrink in demand etc etc)

Come to think of it, I like thinking out if the box and understand things--and try to create things too. Sounds rather contradicting eh?
Thanks ZapperZ for your advice! :)
 
What do you mean by theoretical physics? In common usage that phrase has come to be synonymous with string theory, the big bang, and the "theory of everything." In reality, theoretical physics is simply physics with a theoretical emphasis. There are theoretical physicists working in condensed matter, solid state, classical mechanics, thermodynamics, astrophysics, quantum physics, and any other branch of physics you could name...and there are also experimentalists in all of these fields.

At the undergraduate level, very few schools offer specialized physics degrees. Most of them just offer a general physics degree that covers all of classical and modern physics. A handful of schools offer a bachelor's degree in astrophysics, but those are rare.That really comes down to a physics major with an astronomy minor anyway, and the same level of knowledge can be obtained at essentially any school that has both physics and astronomy departments.

It's certainly not unheard of for people with degrees outside of physics to go on to graduate studies in physics. However, you'll have a lot of catching up to do. A graduate program assumes knowledge at the upper-undergrad level of classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum physics, thermodynamics, and others. A ME doesn't get exposure to all of these courses typically. Most engineers take an introductory physics sequence and perhaps a few more upper level physics courses, but they don't get the breadth or the depth that a physics major gets. You should take the time to read through the thread that was linked above. It's about this very topic and has 6 pages of discussion.

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...if-my-bachelors-degree-isnt-in-physics.64966/
 
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Alright, I'll go take a good read and thanks for your help @QuantumCurt! :D
 

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