Asymptote of a curve in polar coordinates

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The problem involves analyzing the polar equation of a curve defined by ## r\theta =1 ## for the range ## 0<\theta<2\pi##. The objective is to demonstrate that the line ## y=1 ## serves as an asymptote to the curve, utilizing the limit property of the sine function as ## \theta ## approaches zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the variables involved in the polar equation and the implications of limits as ## \theta ## approaches zero. Questions arise regarding the derivation of limits for ## x ## and the necessity of proving the asymptotic behavior.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the relationship among the variables and the implications of the given range for ## \theta ##. There is ongoing exploration of how different ranges might affect the limits and the presence of asymptotes, with no explicit consensus reached on the necessity of proving the asymptote for alternate ranges.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the range of ## \theta ## significantly influences the limits being discussed, particularly in relation to the behavior of ## x ## as ## \theta ## approaches zero. The discussion also touches on the implications of dividing the range into negative and positive intervals.

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Homework Statement


The curve ##C## has polar equation ## r\theta =1 ## for ## 0<\theta<2\pi##

Use the fact that ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}\frac{sin \theta }{\theta }=1## to show the line ## y=1## is an asymptote to ## C##.

The Attempt at a Solution


**Attempt**

$$\ r\theta =1$$
$$\ y\frac{\theta}{\sin \theta} =1$$
$$\ y=\frac{\sin\theta}{ \theta} $$
$$\ \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}y= \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}\frac{sin \theta }{\theta }=1 $$

I understood the concept behind how this asymptote is calculated, but I am not very fluent in mathematics to convert the above information into a comprehensive proof.

Moreover, there is another statement that states that I have to make use of the information ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}x=+\infty##.
Although I get the basic idea that for the line ##y=1## to be an asymptote, it should continue until x goes to infinity, I am not sure how is this ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}x=+\infty## derived (why not negative infinity ?)* and not even sure how to add it in the proof. And lastly, why is proving this information necessary?

Can someone sort my confusions out?

A little context for my confusion*

If I approach ## \theta## from negative side I get negative infinity, if from positive side I get positive infinity since ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0^\pm}x= \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0^\pm}\frac{\cos \theta }{\theta } =\pm \infty##. So why are we just using positive infinity over here? Is it because of the positive range? If yes, what if the provided range was ## -2\pi<\theta<2\pi##?
 
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Faiq said:
**Attempt**
Hi Faiq:

I think there is a step missing in your proof. What is the relationship among: y, r, and θ?

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Buzz
 
Faiq said:

Homework Statement


The curve ##C## has polar equation ## r\theta =1 ## for ## 0<\theta<2\pi##

Use the fact that ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}\frac{sin \theta }{\theta }=1## to show the line ## y=1## is an asymptote to ## C##.

The Attempt at a Solution


**Attempt**

$$\ r\theta =1$$
$$\ y\frac{\theta}{\sin \theta} =1$$
$$\ y=\frac{\sin\theta}{ \theta} $$
$$\ \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}y= \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}\frac{sin \theta }{\theta }=1 $$

I understood the concept behind how this asymptote is calculated, but I am not very fluent in mathematics to convert the above information into a comprehensive proof.
Your work above looks OK to me to show that ##\lim_{\theta \to 0} y = 1##
Faiq said:
Moreover, there is another statement that states that I have to make use of the information ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}x=+\infty##.
Although I get the basic idea that for the line ##y=1## to be an asymptote, it should continue until x goes to infinity, I am not sure how is this ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0}x=+\infty## derived (why not negative infinity ?)* and not even sure how to add it in the proof. And lastly, why is proving this information necessary?

Can someone sort my confusions out?
You are given that ##0 < \theta < 2\pi##, which has an effect on what you get for ##\lim_{\theta \to 0} x##. Use a strategy similar to the one you used to find a horizontal asymptote.
Faiq said:
A little context for my confusion*

If I approach ## \theta## from negative side I get negative infinity, if from positive side I get positive infinity since ## \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0^\pm}x= \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0^\pm}\frac{\cos \theta }{\theta } =\pm \infty##. So why are we just using positive infinity over here? Is it because of the positive range? If yes, what if the provided range was ## -2\pi<\theta<2\pi##?
 
Mark44 said:
You are given that 0<θ<2π0<θ<2π0 < \theta < 2\pi, which has an effect on what you get for limθ→0xlimθ→0x\lim_{\theta \to 0} x. Use a strategy similar to the one you used to find a horizontal asymptote.
Is this correct ?
$$\ x= \frac{\cos θ}{θ} $$
$$\ \lim_{θ→0}x= \lim_{θ→0} \frac{\cos θ}{θ}= +\infty $$
Can you also answer me what was I supposed to do if provided range was ##−2π<θ<2π## instead of ##0<θ<2π## ?
 
Faiq said:
Is this correct ?
$$\ x= \frac{\cos θ}{θ} $$
$$\ \lim_{θ→0}x= \lim_{θ→0} \frac{\cos θ}{θ}= +\infty $$
The last part should be ##\lim_{θ→0^+} \frac{\cos θ}{θ}= +\infty##, since ##0 < \theta < 2\pi##
Faiq said:
Can you also answer me what was I supposed to do if provided range was ##−2π<θ<2π## instead of ##0<θ<2π## ?
The the limit above wouldn't exist, because the left-hand and right-hand limits would be different.
 
Mark44 said:
The last part should be ##\lim_{θ→0^+} \frac{\cos θ}{θ}= +\infty##, since ##0 < \theta < 2\pi##
The the limit above wouldn't exist, because the left-hand and right-hand limits would be different.
Is it not possible to divide the range ##-2\pi <\theta< 2\pi## into ##-2\pi <\theta< 0## and ##0 <\theta< 2\pi##?
Because it is evident that no matter what the range is the asymptote will always be present.
 
Faiq said:
Is it not possible to divide the range ##-2\pi <\theta< 2\pi## into ##-2\pi <\theta< 0## and ##0 <\theta< 2\pi##?
On the given interval, ##0 <\theta< 2\pi##, ##\lim_{θ→0^+} \frac{\cos θ}{θ}= +\infty##.
On the other interval, ##-2\pi <\theta< 0##, ##\lim_{θ→0^-} \frac{\cos θ}{θ}= -\infty##.
Faiq said:
Because it is evident that no matter what the range is the asymptote will always be present.
No, because there are two asymptotes.
 

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