At what distance is the gravitational pull balanced

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance from Titan at which its gravitational pull balances that of Saturn. The mass of Titan is given as 1.35×1023 kg, and its radius is 2,575 km. The distance from Titan to Saturn is 1.22×106 km. The key equation used is the gravitational force equation, G*M/r2, which is applied to both Titan and Saturn to find the equilibrium point. The final calculated distance from Titan to the balance point is approximately 167,026,167.8 meters.

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Homework Statement


On December 25, 2004, the Huygens probe separated from the Cassini spacecraft orbiting Saturn and began a 22 day journey to Saturn's giant moon Titan (see the figure below (Figure 1) ), on whose surface it landed. It is useful to know that Titan is 1.22×106 km from the center of Saturn and has a mass of 1.35×1023 kg and a diameter of 5150 km . At what distance from Titan should the gravitational pull of Titan just balance the gravitational pull of Saturn?

Homework Equations


Ms=1.35*10^23
R=2575km=2575000m
Dt(Distance from titan)=?
Ds(Distance from saturn)=1.22*10^6

G*M/r^2=G*M/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


G*(1.35*10^23)/(2575000)=
 
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a97e said:

Homework Statement


On December 25, 2004, the Huygens probe separated from the Cassini spacecraft orbiting Saturn and began a 22 day journey to Saturn's giant moon Titan (see the figure below (Figure 1) ), on whose surface it landed. It is useful to know that Titan is 1.22×106 km from the center of Saturn and has a mass of 1.35×1023 kg and a diameter of 5150 km . At what distance from Titan should the gravitational pull of Titan just balance the gravitational pull of Saturn?

Homework Equations


Ms=1.35*10^23
R=2575km=2575000m
Dt(Distance from titan)=?
Ds(Distance from saturn)=1.22*10^6

G*M/r^2=G*M/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


G*(1.35*10^23)/(2575000)=
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G*(1.35*10^23)/(2575000)^2=G*(mass of saturn)/(d)^2 ??
I'm not sure what to do with the distance from saturn to the moon or if it is multiplied by the mass of saturn. I'm really confused
 
a97e said:
G*M/r^2=G*M/r^2
This is the key equation, but use different variables for the two different masses and distances. Try again? :smile:
 
G*M/r^2= G*m/(d)^2 where M is the mass of the moon, r is the radius of the moon, m is the mass of Saturn and d is the distance between them?
So,
G's cancel
(1.35*10^23)/(2575000)^2= (5.68*10^26)/(d)^2
d^2= (5.68*10^26)*(2575000)^2 /(1.35*10^23)
d= sqrt(2.78977*10^16)
d=167026167.8
 
a97e said:
G*M/r^2= G*m/(d)^2 where M is the mass of the moon, r is the radius of the moon, m is the mass of Saturn and d is the distance between them?
So,
G's cancel
(1.35*10^23)/(2575000)^2= (5.68*10^26)/(d)^2
d^2= (5.68*10^26)*(2575000)^2 /(1.35*10^23)
d= sqrt(2.78977*10^16)
d=167026167.8

Oh wait, is it d+radius of the moon?
 
a97e said:
Dt(Distance from titan)=?
Ds(Distance from saturn)=1.22*10^6
I assume you are defining Dt as the distance from Titan to the point where the fields balance. The given distance 1.22*10^6km is from Titan to Saturn. In terms of these, how far is it from Saturn to where the fields balance?

When you have answered that, what is the field due to each at that point?
 
haruspex said:
I assume you are defining Dt as the distance from Titan to the point where the fields balance. The given distance 1.22*10^6km is from Titan to Saturn. In terms of these, how far is it from Saturn to where the fields balance?

When you have answered that, what is the field due to each at that point?
So it's d+1.22*10^6 instead of d?
 
a97e said:
So it's d+1.22*10^6 instead of d?
Draw a diagram. Show the centre of Saturn, S, the centre of Titan, T, a circle around Titan radius r, and a point where the two gravitational fields balance, P. Let the distance ST be Ds.
Where, roughly speaking, is P in relation to ST?
If the distance SP is x, what is the distance TP?
 

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