Atom Shape: Experiments, Spheres & Cubes in Physics

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The discussion centers on the shape of atoms, particularly hydrogen, and the nature of photon emission from deexcited electrons. Participants assert that while the ground state wavefunction of hydrogen is spherically symmetric, it does not imply that the atom itself is spherical. Quantum Electrodynamics (QED) is identified as the framework that describes photon emission, but it lacks a geometric representation of this process. The conversation highlights the complexities of atomic structure and the limitations of current models in providing intuitive physical explanations.

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Chaos' lil bro Order said:
I cannot accept any theory as complete until it can be represented geometrically. I am frustrated that some people are posting scientific dogma without seriously contemplating my question. Is there no theory or white paper outlining how photons and electrons interact in the real, 'physical' terms of geometry?

Are we still stuck at Feynman's 'Magic bag' analogy?

two things interacting is not known as a physical phenomenon. so every where we describe it different (interacting two objects). A phenomenon is any observable occurrence.
when in normal scales we say "when a ball hits a wall it folds it to some degree", then the wall being folded is a phenomenon which physics is interested in, and not the interaction which is only an assumption. now not typically something to fold but to change or variant, you know.
now the wall that folds, there is something observable about this folding. having this potential to fold is one of its invariance property and to what degree it is being folded, in another sense, is an observable quantity of the wall.
 

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