Attenuation and Phase constant values in wave equation

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The discussion centers on the wave equation represented as $$\nabla^2 \vec{E}=j\omega \mu \sigma \vec{E}-j\omega \mu\varepsilon \vec{E}$$, where the parameters alpha and beta denote attenuation and phase constants, respectively. The analysis reveals that in a lossless medium (where sigma = 0), the derived expression for gamma indicates that alpha must equal zero to maintain the integrity of the equations. This conclusion is supported by the correction of the second term in the wave equation, which should be written as $$-\omega^2 \mu \varepsilon \vec{E}$$, confirming the relationship between the constants and the wave behavior.

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Attenuation and Phase constant values in wave equation
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Regarding wave equation we are faced with this form
$$\nabla^2 \vec{E}=j\omega \mu \sigma \vec{E}-j\omega \mu\varepsilon \vec{E}=\gamma ^2\vec{E}$$
where
$$\gamma ^2=j\omega \mu \sigma -j\omega \mu\varepsilon $$
$$\gamma =\alpha +j\beta $$
where alpha and beta are attenuation and phase constants respectively. If we have a lossless media(where sigma =0), I need to obtain alpha and beta values:
My attempt:
$$\gamma ^2 =-j\omega \mu\varepsilon =>\gamma ^2=\omega \mu\varepsilon e^{\frac{-j\pi }{2}}=>\gamma=\sqrt{\omega \mu\varepsilon} e^{\frac{-j\pi }{4}}=>\gamma=\sqrt{\omega \mu\varepsilon}(C os(\frac{\pi }{4})+jSin(\frac{\pi }{4}))=>\alpha =\beta => \alpha \neq 0 $$

it means we have a loss value in the equation, However, if we set alpha=0 in the gamma variable all equations are correct. I need to prove alpha is equal to zero when sigma =0.
 
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baby_1 said:
Regarding wave equation we are faced with this form
$$\nabla^2 \vec{E}=j\omega \mu \sigma \vec{E}-j\omega \mu\varepsilon \vec{E}$$

Are you sure that you wrote this correctly? I checked a couple of standard textbooks which write the second term on the right as ##-\omega^2 \mu \varepsilon \vec E## (no factor of ##j## and ##\omega## is squared).
 
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Yes i agree with @TSny, that term comes from $$\mu\epsilon\frac{\partial^2 \vec{E}(r,t)}{\partial t^2}$$ and assuming harmonic time dependence that is $$\vec{E}(r,t)=\vec{E}(r)e^{-j\omega t}$$ we get that it is equal to $$j^2\omega^2\mu\epsilon\vec{E}(r)e^{-j\omega t}$$
 
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