Automatic light switch while away from home

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding solutions for automating lights in a home while the occupants are away for an extended period. Participants explore various devices and methods to create the appearance of occupancy, as well as the effectiveness and practicality of such solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about devices that can turn lights on and off at specific times, suggesting that existing wall-plug timers may not be sufficient.
  • Others mention programmable switches that can be wired into the electrical system as a potential solution.
  • There are suggestions for alternative methods to deter burglary, such as having neighbors watch the house or maintaining the appearance of occupancy through various means.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of light automation in preventing break-ins, arguing that more traditional methods, like having a neighbor check on the house, may be more reliable.
  • Anecdotes are shared about past experiences with home security and automation, illustrating both successes and failures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of light automation as a security measure. There are multiple competing views regarding the best approach to take while away from home, with some advocating for technology and others favoring traditional methods.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions include assumptions about the effectiveness of various security measures and the potential costs associated with different solutions, but these remain unresolved.

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Dear PF,

How are you? I am fine. So we are going to be out of the house for a month and I figure it would be a terrible waste of electricity if we had someone house sit for us. Does anyone know if anyone makes some sort of device that will turn on and off a light in our house for certain hours? I know there are some devices that will turn off and on an entire wall-plug for certain hours in a day (which I suppose I could use for some), but are there any that would fit right into the sockets themselves?

Does anyone have any other suggestions to make our house... not look like it's been unoccupied for a month? :P

DISCUSS!
 
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Pengwuino said:
Dear PF,

How are you? I am fine. So we are going to be out of the house for a month and I figure it would be a terrible waste of electricity if we had someone house sit for us. Does anyone know if anyone makes some sort of device that will turn on and off a light in our house for certain hours? I know there are some devices that will turn off and on an entire wall-plug for certain hours in a day (which I suppose I could use for some), but are there any that would fit right into the sockets themselves?

Does anyone have any other suggestions to make our house... not look like it's been unoccupied for a month? :P

DISCUSS!

Where you goin'?
 
More importantly - where do you live?
 
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lisab said:
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OMG! :smile:
 
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Pengwuino said:
Dear PF,

How are you? I am fine. So we are going to be out of the house for a month and I figure it would be a terrible waste of electricity if we had someone house sit for us. Does anyone know if anyone makes some sort of device that will turn on and off a light in our house for certain hours? I know there are some devices that will turn off and on an entire wall-plug for certain hours in a day (which I suppose I could use for some), but are there any that would fit right into the sockets themselves?

Does anyone have any other suggestions to make our house... not look like it's been unoccupied for a month? :P

DISCUSS!

Would it be expensive to have someone sit in the house than having install those home automations?
 
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BAN BASIL!

I'm moving to Georgia. I'm bringing the parental units and we're just going to tour the south and east coasts as well so we'll be gone a month. Then I stay in Gawgia and they go home muahaha.

Considering it's going to be the second hottest month of the year and our A/C won't need to be on if we leave the house alone, it would be a lot cheaper to have no one around and buy a few automation things than have to have the a/c on adn everything and pay the huge amounts of power it will take.

jhae2.718 said:

BAH, I didn't know what search terms to use. I kept finding ... things that weren't what I wanted!
 
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Who uses lights as a guide to whether people are out of town or not?

You call their phone and time how long it takes their answering machine finally beeps to take your message. The longer it takes, the more voice messages there are on the tape.

That and checking out which houses didn't put garbage cans out on trash pick-up day.

You don't think any of those light tricks really work, do you?

The only real protection when you're gone is nosy neighbors that know you're gone (and they will if they're nosy enough). They'll get suspicious if the lights turn on in your house when you're supposed to be gone.
 
  • #11
BobG said:
Who uses lights as a guide to whether people are out of town or not?

You call their phone and time how long it takes their answering machine finally beeps to take your message. The longer it takes, the more voice messages there are on the tape.

That and checking out which houses didn't put garbage cans out on trash pick-up day.

You don't think any of those light tricks really work, do you?

The only real protection when you're gone is nosy neighbors that know you're gone (and they will if they're nosy enough). They'll get suspicious if the lights turn on in your house when you're supposed to be gone.
Back in the olden days it was having someone remove the newspapers that were delivered.

Keep the grass mowed. Have someone move a car in and out of the driveway.
 
  • #12
BobG said:
Who uses lights as a guide to whether people are out of town or not?

You call their phone and time how long it takes their answering machine finally beeps to take your message. The longer it takes, the more voice messages there are on the tape.
Answering machine? Tape? Yah. Check if the stables are empty too.

But all seriousness aside. You assume the perp knows the phone number of the target house. B&Es tend to be more opportunistic than that.

BobG said:
That and checking out which houses didn't put garbage cans out on trash pick-up day.
That requires more planning and patience than most B&Eers are willing to risk.

BobG said:
You don't think any of those light tricks really work, do you?
The jury's out on that. Why do you think they don't?

BobG said:
The only real protection when you're gone is nosy neighbors that know you're gone (and they will if they're nosy enough). They'll get suspicious if the lights turn on in your house when you're supposed to be gone.
That why you tell them about the lights.
 
  • #13
There are programmable switches that are wired into the box and replace the switch cover.

There are even security cameras that will let you watch burglars steal your stuff while watching on your smart phone.:bugeye:
 
  • #14
Pengwuino said:
Dear PF,

How are you? I am fine. So we are going to be out of the house for a month and I figure it would be a terrible waste of electricity if we had someone house sit for us. Does anyone know if anyone makes some sort of device that will turn on and off a light in our house for certain hours? I know there are some devices that will turn off and on an entire wall-plug for certain hours in a day (which I suppose I could use for some), but are there any that would fit right into the sockets themselves?

Does anyone have any other suggestions to make our house... not look like it's been unoccupied for a month? :P

DISCUSS!
We don't know your actual background to give any advice.
 
  • #15
DaveC426913 said:
B&Es tend to be more opportunistic than that.
Years and years ago I rented a back room from a guy who was a real estate wheeler dealer. He went out of town on business one week feeling fine cause I'd be there. A couple days into his absence I went into the kitchen from my room in the back and heard people moving around in the living room. I though he must have cut his trip short, and was about to call out when the kitchen door opened and a face briefly appeared, then disappeared. There were frantic whispers, then fast footsteps away, then silence. I went into the living room to find the front door all askew: they had opened it with a crowbar.

The cops said there was a network: baggage handlers at the airport take down the addresses of people leaving town and sell them to the B&E guys.

I was just lucky these weren't the tie-you-up-and-tell-me-where-the-valuables-are type. They really were only interested in temporarily vacant places.
 
  • #16
A friend of mine told me that story. Back in seventies father of his best friend designed a system that would switch the lights on/off as if someone was home. But he forgot to tell his son how to switch it off. When his parents left the city for two weeks poor guy was living moving from room to room to follow the light. Mark claimed he have visited him one evening and it was like "OK, it is 20:15, we are going to the kitchen. Click!".
 
  • #17
Borek said:
A friend of mine told me that story. Back in seventies father of his best friend designed a system that would switch the lights on/off as if someone was home. But he forgot to tell his son how to switch it off. When his parents left the city for two weeks poor guy was living moving from room to room to follow the light. Mark claimed he have visited him one evening and it was like "OK, it is 20:15, we are going to the kitchen. Click!".
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
  • #18
Products like this are widely available in the UK. I don't know about other countries.

NB. A UK-sold device would work only for 220-240V supplies.
 
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Back in the '80s I set up a X-10 system that was controlled by my AppleII. It turned on and off lights at pre-programed times including sunrise and sunset as allowable times. It even allowed to set a time window and would switch the lights at a random time in the window. (Random time -/+_15min of sunset).

Not sure how they work now but it was not incredibly expensive then.
 
  • #20
Integral said:
Back in the '80s I set up a X-10 system that was controlled by my AppleII. It turned on and off lights at pre-programed times including sunrise and sunset as allowable times. It even allowed to set a time window and would switch the lights at a random time in the window. (Random time -/+_15min of sunset).
And it could do all that while storing and organizing all your recipes?? No wonder personal computers took off! :smile:
 

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