Average acceleration and instantaneous acceleration

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves the motion of a particle in a horizontal xy plane, where the acceleration is defined as a function of time. The task is to determine the position vector and the angle of travel at a specific time, given initial conditions for position and velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the acceleration function to find the velocity and then the position vector. Some express uncertainty about the application of constant acceleration equations in this context, given that acceleration is time-dependent.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the integration process required to solve the problem. Participants are sharing insights about treating the motion in vector form versus scalar form and are encouraging the original poster to clarify their understanding and share their attempts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the original poster's struggle with vector concepts and integration, indicating a potential gap in foundational understanding that may affect their approach to the problem.

SAGHTD
Messages
8
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


The acceleration of a particle moving only on a horizontal xy plane is given by a= (3t)i + (4t)j, where 'a' is in m/s*2 and t is in seconds. At t=0, the position vector r= (20m)i + (40m)j locates the particle, which then has the velocity vector v=(5m/s)i + (2m/s)j. At t=4.00s what are (1)the position vector in unit vector notation and (2) the angle between its direction of travel and the positive direction of the x-axis?


Can someone please help me I'm having a bit of problems with vector question such as this i tried a few things but it was to no use. Any help would be much appreciated :)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF!

Hi SAGHTD ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

The standard https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=204" equations still apply …

you can either use them with s v and a as vectors,

or you can use them as scalars (as usual), for the x and y directions separately.

Show us what you've done, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
well to the get the position vector you should integrate twice
v(t)=integral a(t) dt + v(0) which is given
then integrate v to get r and r(0) is also given
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi SAGHTD ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

The standard https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=204" equations still apply …

you can either use them with s v and a as vectors,

or you can use them as scalars (as usual), for the x and y directions separately.

Show us what you've done, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:


uhm I know that I am only a noob here but since a is a function of t why would the constant acceleration apply?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
oops!

oops! i misread it! :redface:
 
I'm still a bit lost on where to really start vector aren't really something i understand too well... :frown:

But still if they're asking for position vector can't i just integrate "a" twice to get it position vector?? I'm not sure if I'm really making sense but my idea seems to be a bit silly too me...
 
Hi SAGHTD! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)

a is (d2x/dt2)i + (d2y/dt2)j

If you integrate once, you get (dx/dt)i + (dy/dt)j, which is v.

And if you integrate once more, you get xi + yj, which is s.

So yes, you can just integrate "a" twice to get the position vector "s".

You can either do it as a scalar, one coordinate at a time (if that feels safer :wink:), or you can do it all together, as a vector. :smile:

(ie as: a = d2s/dt2, where s = xi + yj)

Have a go! :smile:
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
916
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
7K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
2K