Average acceleration using vectors

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The problem involves calculating the average acceleration of a bicyclist over a 14-second interval, where the cyclist's initial and final positions and velocities are given in relation to a park's flagpole. The subject area pertains to kinematics and vector analysis.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of average acceleration using vector components, noting the need to represent velocities in vector form. There is a focus on the correct method for vector subtraction and the implications of directionality in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on representing velocities as vectors and suggested breaking down the acceleration into components. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to calculating the average acceleration, with multiple interpretations being considered.

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Participants have noted potential misunderstandings regarding vector subtraction and the representation of velocities in different directions. There is a mention of a specific expected answer, which raises questions about the calculations being performed.

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At one instant a bicyclist is 30 m due east of a park's flagpole, going due south with a speed of 18 m/s. Then, 14 s later, the cyclist is 45 m due north of the flagpole, going due east with a speed of 9 m/s. For the cyclist in this 14 s interval, find each of the following.
A)average acceleration

What i did was, i used the fact that a=v/t. So i pluged in a=(9+(-18))/14. The acceleration I got was 1.93. that is the wrong answer. Can someone please tell what i did wrong and help me figure out a way to get the angle. thank You
 
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jperk980 said:
At one instant a bicyclist is 30 m due east of a park's flagpole, going due south with a speed of 18 m/s. Then, 14 s later, the cyclist is 45 m due north of the flagpole, going due east with a speed of 9 m/s. For the cyclist in this 14 s interval, find each of the following.
A)average acceleration

What i did was, i used the fact that a=v/t. So i pluged in a=(9+(-18))/14. The acceleration I got was 1.93. that is the wrong answer. Can someone please tell what i did wrong and help me figure out a way to get the angle. thank You

velocity and acceleration are vectors... can you write the two velocities in vector form... (use i and j vectors). Then calculate average acceleration just as you did, but you'll be subtracting two vectors...
 
sorry i missed type what i did i did subtract i did a=9-(-18)/14 and i got 1.93. i know the answer is 1.37 but i don't know how to get it
 
jperk980 said:
sorry i missed type what i did i did subtract i did a=9-(-18)/14 and i got 1.93. i know the answer is 1.37 but i don't know how to get it

You can't subtract like that because east and south aren't along the same line... write the two velocities as vectors (using i for east west... j for north south).

For example: 20m/s west is

\vec{v} = -20\vec{i}

20m/s north is:
\vec{v} = 20\vec{j}

Does this make sense?

If the notation doesn't make sense... then try it like this... what is the average acceleration in the east west direction (taking east as positive) ?

what is the average acceleration in the north south direction (taking north as positive) ?

What is the magnitude of the net acceleration?
 

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