Average force exerted on a ball?

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The problem involves a tennis player striking a tennis ball, requiring the calculation of the average force exerted on the ball given its mass, final velocity, and the distance over which the force is applied. The context is rooted in mechanics, specifically relating to forces and motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial calculations of acceleration and force, with some questioning the use of distance as a time variable. The Work-Energy Theorem is suggested as an alternative approach to find the average force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the Work-Energy Theorem, while others are exploring the implications of their calculations and questioning the correctness of their results. There is an ongoing examination of the relationship between work, force, and distance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential errors in the interpretation of given values, particularly the distinction between distance and time. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and incorrect assumptions regarding the physics principles involved.

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Homework Statement



A tennis player strikes a tennis ball of mass 56.7g when it is at the top of the toss, accelerating it to 68.0m/s in a distance of 0.0250 m. What is the average force the player exerts on the ball? Ignore any other forces acting on the ball.

Homework Equations



Net-Force = mass * acceleration
Acceleration = Change in velocity / Change in time


The Attempt at a Solution



Change in velocity = 68
Change in time = 0.0250 seconds

Acceleration = 68/0.025 = 2,720 m/s/s
mass = 56.7g -> 0.0567kg

Net-Force = (0.0567)(2,720) = 154.224 N



I'm able to check if my answer is correct after submitting it so I know whether or not it is correct. I thought this would be the only way to do it, but perhaps I am not finding the average force? Any help is appreciated
 
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You were given: "a distance of 0.0250 m"
and you used it as: "Change in time = 0.0250 seconds"
this is obviously incorrect.

You can use the Work-Energy Theorem to solve this problem !
 
gomunkul51 said:
You were given: "a distance of 0.0250 m"
and you used it as: "Change in time = 0.0250 seconds"
this is obviously incorrect.

You can use the Work-Energy Theorem to solve this problem !



Wow, all this time and I didn't catch that error. Thanks for pointing that out.

As for the work-energy theorem, would I just be using this?

Work = .5 * m * Vf
Work = .5 * 0.0567kg * 68m/s
Work = 131.09 N

Or am I missing a step somewhere?
 
Work done by the net force = change in Kinetic Energy.

W = FNET·x

ΔKE = (½)m(vf2) - (½)m(v02)
 
SammyS said:
Work done by the net force = change in Kinetic Energy.

W = FNET·x

ΔKE = (½)m(vf2) - (½)m(v02)


I had a mistake in writing out my last post.

Work = .5 * m * Vf
Work = .5 * 0.0567kg * 68^2 m/s
Work = 131.09 N

Is in fact right, mathematically atleast.

ΔKE = (½)m(vf2) - (½)m(v02)
ΔKE = (1/2)(0.0567)(68^2) - (1/2)(0.0567)(0^2)
ΔKE = 131.09 N

I get the same answer. The initial velocity is 0 (right?), because it's just being tossed straight up in the air. Unfortunately 131.09N is still wrong apparently. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 
IAmPat said:
I had a mistake in writing out my last post.

Work = .5 * m * Vf2 This is the final KE.
Work = .5 * 0.0567kg * 68^2 m/s
Work = 131.09 N·m
Work is force times distance. The racket applies a force on the ball over a distance of 0.250m.

Is in fact right, mathematically at least.

ΔKE = (½)m(vf2) - (½)m(v02)
ΔKE = (1/2)(0.0567)(68^2) - (1/2)(0.0567)(0^2)
ΔKE = 131.09 N·m  

I get the same answer. The initial velocity is 0 (right?), because it's just being tossed straight up in the air. Unfortunately 131.09N is still wrong apparently. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

See comments in red above.
 
SammyS said:
See comments in red above.

Ah, thank you.

I divided 131.09 by distance and got

131.09/0.0250 = 5243.6 N

Which was correct. Thanks
 
yup.
 

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